calteg
calteg Reader
12/30/13 5:29 p.m.

Dumb question that I probably already know the answer to, but here it goes:

Can I have a machine shop deck a head with the valvetrain still in there? Probably a terrible idea that is inviting disaster, but I thought I'd ask...

Toyman01
Toyman01 UltimaDork
12/30/13 5:33 p.m.

Sure, but then you would have to disassemble it to get it clean, so...

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid PowerDork
12/30/13 6:09 p.m.

I deck my head all the time, when I go into short basements.

Will
Will Dork
12/30/13 6:22 p.m.

What's the ROI on decking a head? I'm in the middle of an LS1 rebuild, and the rules (ESP autocross) say I can deck it .010." Is it worth the trouble and money?

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
12/30/13 6:26 p.m.

In that case I'd do it just to ensure you have a fresh, level surface for the head gasket to get a good seal.

blaze86vic
blaze86vic Reader
12/30/13 7:38 p.m.
Will wrote: What's the ROI on decking a head? I'm in the middle of an LS1 rebuild, and the rules (ESP autocross) say I can deck it .010." Is it worth the trouble and money?

You don't have to disassemble it. The last head I had decked (strait 6 5MGE), I took in fully assembled and they disassembled, decked, and re-assembled for $68.

pres589
pres589 UltraDork
12/30/13 8:21 p.m.

In reply to Will:

The problem with decking a head any great amount is that the intake manifold has to be addressed somehow. You're basically bringing the ports down closer to the block when you remove material; remove enough and don't touch the intake and you can get leaks in the V. Like I did with my Capri and the 2600 under the hood... stupid thing never sealed right for very long after I had something like .020 inches of material removed from the head deck surface.

I wouldn't do it again if I could go back and un-do it.

noddaz
noddaz Dork
12/31/13 9:52 a.m.

The only reason you would have to dis-assemble anything is if a valve was hanging open past the deck surface.

Ian F
Ian F UltimaDork
12/31/13 10:53 a.m.
Will wrote: What's the ROI on decking a head? I'm in the middle of an LS1 rebuild, and the rules (ESP autocross) say I can deck it .010." Is it worth the trouble and money?

The decking limit in SP is because decking the head generally reduces the combustion chamber size and thus raises the compression ratio. Since SP rules don't allow for increasing the compression ratio via piston replacement, guys would go nuts decking the heads as much as possible.

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