I had the opportunity to talk to a grumpy 70-something guy who was walking past my house and asked me to borrow a screwdriver. I said "sure, let me go get it out of the garage." He said "boy, that's no garage, I don't see that there Soooobarooo or your wife's Ute parked in there! That there is a SHOP, now get it right!"
I hear this from other old men who walk around my neighborhood as well. One of them told me that I don't have a shop, I just have a man-cave (since there is a street sign on one wall). Another told me that I don't have a shop, I have a garage, because it's attached to my house and doesn't have a lift.
OMG, which of these guys are right? Is my garage a shop? Or is it a man-cave? Or is it a "workspace"?
And what if I have a racecar in it? Does that make it a "race shop?" But what if that racecar doesn't have a roll cage but does have 285-width Hoosiers?
If I put a dyno in it, will that make it an "import tuner shop?"
Discuss.....
If it's not a grosh it's inadequate.
The garage is attached to the house and has cars and yard tools in it. The shop is out back and contains the world and projects. 
If it contains lots of tools and you work on projects in it, it's a shop.
Toyman01 wrote:
The garage is attached to the house and has cars and yard tools in it. The shop is out back and contains the world and projects.
If it contains lots of tools and you work on projects in it, it's a shop.
hmm....I think I have it backwards 
my garage that is part of the house has my projects and tools and stuff. My single-bay in the backyard has a car and all the yard stuff in it
Mine has a fridge so it could be a man cave or possibly a bar.
It has welders, tools, and some dangerous looking hydraulic items so... shop.
It has two race cars, scales and some slick Flyin' Miata stands... so ... race shop?
It has a motorcycle so... garage?
It has an old laptop and internet so... office?
It is unkept and filthy so... junk room?
I see the dilemma.
In reply to irish44j:
Nope, the shop should always the larger of the two.
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
Pretty sure there is a medication for that.
Edit: If not another, larger, building will certainly cure it.
Toyman01 wrote:
Edit: If not another, larger, building will certainly cure it.
I'm leaning toward "Everything Must Go!" liquidation sale. There is one broken race car with spares too many in there.
call it whatever you want.. or whatever aggravates the most people, if that's what you're into.
maybe get all the old timers together and have a vote..
back in the olden days, they used to call the shop where you took your car to get fixed a "garage"..
oldtin
UberDork
10/10/14 8:01 p.m.
medication can be found in the aforementioned fridge in shop/garage/race shop/junk room/man cave.
a garage is where you store e36 m3. a shop is where you build e36 m3.
A garage/shop/man cave is where you are king and grumpy old men can go berkeley themselves.
A garage is where you park cars and work on them for fun. A shop's sole purpose is to make money. Period.
Nick_Comstock wrote:
If it's not a grosh it's inadequate.
New category. Not shop. Not garage. Grosh.
Garage is where mom parks, shed is where you whip the kids.
I would ask the grumpy old men to all get on the same page as to what they would call it. 
Then call it something else.
Oh, and get off the shed!
Junkyard_Dog wrote:
A garage is where you park cars and work on them for fun. A shop's sole purpose is to make money. Period.
but....but....what about "shop class" in school? we didn't make no money there... 
Ian F
UltimaDork
10/10/14 9:08 p.m.
oldtin wrote:
a garage is where you store e36 m3. a shop is where you build e36 m3.
That's my definition as well. Houses have a "garage" (or 'grosh') which is generally meant for parking cars in by some people. Hoarding boxes of worthless crap for most...
irish's crusty old dude has is terms backwards... unless maybe it's a Southern thing... where you took you car down to the "local garage" to get fixed.
for those who think there are old dudes actually roaming my neighborhood critiquing garages....
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/do-you-consider-it-racing/91655/page1/
oldtin wrote:
unless maybe it's a Southern thing...
Northern Virginia is about as "southern" as Ohio is....which is to say.....it's not southern at all except for the technicality of being below the mason-dixon line ;)
Ian F
UltimaDork
10/10/14 10:05 p.m.
In reply to irish44j:
Oh... Generally I agree, but I've also spent enough time in NoVa to have met a few 'natives' who may as well be from Georgia... Plus, where someone lives doesn't always reflect where they're from and therefore the terminology they grew up with. Hell, get me on the right day and you'd never know I've lived in PA for the last 34 years and not where I was born (GA).
Ian F wrote:
In reply to irish44j:
Oh... Generally I agree, but I've also spent enough time in NoVa to have met a few 'natives' who may as well be from Georgia... Plus, where someone lives doesn't always reflect where they're from and therefore the terminology they grew up with. Hell, get me on the right day and you'd never know I've lived in PA for the last 34 years and not where I was born (GA).
you must have been in Manassas . That's where the good 'ol boys in this area live...
A "grosh"? In these parts that word will get you a green glass bottle of beer with a hinged porcelain stopper!
I like the KISS method- it's my "happy place".
