Sadly I'm not up on the newest automotive technology like I used to be in years past,I know they've come a long way in a short time, but here's my question: Let's say a 2014 or 15 car- how much, if any info would or could the car's computer give the warranty dept at your dealership in possible terms of driving style, how often you turn the traction control off, peak rpms and/or speed, etc, etc, when you bring your car in for service or covered repairs? Basically, will your own car rat you out? Thanks for any info
Possibly yes, depends on the car.
Aeromoto wrote:
Sadly I'm not up on the newest automotive technology like I used to be in years past,I know they've come a long way in a short time, but here's my question: Let's say a 2014 or 15 car- how much, if any info would or could the car's computer give the warranty dept at your dealership in possible terms of driving style, how often you turn the traction control off, peak rpms and/or speed, etc, etc, when you bring your car in for service or covered repairs? Basically, will your own car rat you out? Thanks for any info
I've never heard someones warranty denied due to a computer telling the person how someone was driving a car, lol.
nissan what? nismo 370? yes. skyline? yes. everything else, no.
-J0N
Yeah most cars will rat you out these days. But dealers and the car makers don't want to use it frivolous as it may spawn a class action on privacy. We would review data on the cars returned due to major warranty back in the early 2000s. It was usually used to root cause faults. I only remember one case where we actually rejected the warranty usually customer satisfaction was more important.
Did you nuke your gtr trans? 
kanaric wrote:
I've never heard someones warranty denied due to a computer telling the person how someone was driving a car, lol.
BMW has known if you money shifted your manual car since the early 90s and have used it to (rightly) deny a warranty claim (at least on message boards in unconfirmed whining threads).
icaneat50eggs wrote:
Did you nuke your gtr trans?
Sadly not a GTR. I'm refering to a Versa or Sentra. Mainly the concern is- if you autocrossed it, could the computer somehow reveal the aggressive driving, giving the dealer ammo to void any warranty repairs?
Most cars will not "rat you out" at all, but there are many exceptions on the high end - the Tesla S and the R35 GTR are two I know about.
Any car will "rat you out" if you add an insurance company black box, just GPS-derived data can be enough. The oblivious granny who everyone's dodging will look like the world's safest driver though, she never turns or brakes hard!
Oh, no way in hell I'd ever put one of those ins. co. boxes on my car. That being said, as the technology progresses I would certainly not be shocked when and if the day comes that cars will report your driving habits to the manufacturer, ins. co., and law enforcement.
Oh yes that day is coming, the technology is already here but the political will is not...yet.
I don't know about political will, but I'm sure money will seal the deal- the insurance companies and manufacturer warranties will have ammo to deny claims, and law enforcement will have an easy peasy source of revenue generation, your tickets will just arrive in the mail, like a speed camera that follows you 24-7
Maybe I should have said "lack of political will"...
kanaric wrote:
Aeromoto wrote:
Sadly I'm not up on the newest automotive technology like I used to be in years past,I know they've come a long way in a short time, but here's my question: Let's say a 2014 or 15 car- how much, if any info would or could the car's computer give the warranty dept at your dealership in possible terms of driving style, how often you turn the traction control off, peak rpms and/or speed, etc, etc, when you bring your car in for service or covered repairs? Basically, will your own car rat you out? Thanks for any info
I've never heard someones warranty denied due to a computer telling the person how someone was driving a car, lol.
Mmmm, the GT-R definitely does that. Launch control = voided warranty.
I find it odd that a car company could deny a person a warranty claim for driving the car at the limits it is designed to go. If you don't want owners going 110 mph put a governor on it to limit it to the highest posted speed you will cover Other wise berkelying off.
The manual for an S2 Elise basically says the warranty is null and void if you take the car on a track. Not kidding.
Hopefully the "lack of political will" will endure for quite some time, as a vehicle "ratting out" its owner proactively is a violation of privacy and hits the "can't face accuser in court" button that speed/redlight/etc cameras hit.
The insurance company "snap shots" really piss me off. If my driving record is clean, what else do you need to know? It equates to "guilty until proven innocent"
Sky_Render wrote:
kanaric wrote:
Aeromoto wrote:
Sadly I'm not up on the newest automotive technology like I used to be in years past,I know they've come a long way in a short time, but here's my question: Let's say a 2014 or 15 car- how much, if any info would or could the car's computer give the warranty dept at your dealership in possible terms of driving style, how often you turn the traction control off, peak rpms and/or speed, etc, etc, when you bring your car in for service or covered repairs? Basically, will your own car rat you out? Thanks for any info
I've never heard someones warranty denied due to a computer telling the person how someone was driving a car, lol.
Mmmm, the GT-R definitely does that. Launch control = voided warranty.
Same with Porsche on Over-rev's, lotus does the same thing on the DME. Allegedly my R8 tracks over-revs on the Manual cars but not the R-Tronic's which conceivable cannot over-rev.
Especially the turbos and GT3, a clean over rev history adds a good chunk to the selling price. I think porsche is pushing the PDK so hard as they do not get over rev damage that customers want them to repair.
NOHOME
SuperDork
9/4/14 1:03 p.m.
So, does hitting the rev limiter on a semi regular basis pose a problem? I can see where if I shifted from 5th to 2nd it should not be the manufacturers fault, but if the rev limiter kicks in it should all be good right?
Yeah nobody can blame you for hitting the rev limiter, that's what it's there for.
How do people even "money shift" a BMW? No car i've owned that was a 90s model or later even lets you shift into a gear that would do that. I would think that BMW would for sure be a car that wouldn't.
On my Skyline I accidentally shifted from 4th to 3rd when meaning to go to 5th, but that car is older than any car I think would record logs on your RPMs.
In reply to kanaric:
It definitely can happen and no there's nothing preventing you from doing it. 5th to 2nd accidentally when turning hard right was the situation I witnessed (from afar).
