05xtsy
05xtsy New Reader
4/8/11 12:04 p.m.

not bad, but this car will be mid engined

VTX
VTX New Reader
4/8/11 1:34 p.m.

Krozen, I'm liking it more than the first one your showed. I think you'll have to move the driver compartment forward though. There needs to be more space for the engine and transmission in back and there doesn't need to be that much space in the front.

I would also see if you can reduce the amount of overhang in front of the front wheels.

Overall, nice work though!

olpro
olpro New Reader
4/8/11 2:13 p.m.

In reply to VTX and 05xtsy: Your points are right on the money. So why has Krozn spent all this effort on a cad model that is clearly on the wrong package??

Birbilis
Birbilis
4/8/11 3:15 p.m.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7822/4skiaseislampseis4444.jpg

my design is angry and ready for battles heheheh...

I have many different design details to test on it....

rsjunderground
rsjunderground New Reader
4/8/11 5:48 p.m.

What do you think about this?

Thanas_4
Thanas_4 New Reader
4/8/11 6:42 p.m.

Well, we are still working on this back part of our design. Soon we will finish this concept by making realistic sketches and we are going to send it to the competition. After that we will probably work on new ones (as from what I have understood, we can send several concepts as a team). Here are some more ideas for the back and a proposal for headlights at the front:

we also may work on this one to send - it has small differences but at the end it looks like another car. Personally I like it best.

And last but not least, a side sketch I just got from Konstantinos - the rear part is a bit revised and I think its better now:

[URL=http://img546.imageshack.us/i/skitso36.jpg/][/URL]

Rotr8
Rotr8 New Reader
4/8/11 8:04 p.m.

Thanas- If your going to represent COTS(Commercial off the shelf) items such as the Celica headlights youve shown, be careful to represent their scale accurately, the Celica light is a popular kit light because of its apparent sharpness, however it is a very large housing and often looks silly when placed on anything other than a celica... The sharp angles of the light do match your other design elements but youve drawn the light at about a 40-50% scale to actual size [URL=http://img860.imageshack.us/i/dyswg9.jpg/][/URL]

Javelin
Javelin SuperDork
4/8/11 8:44 p.m.
Javelin wrote:

Must be boring again

Krozn
Krozn New Reader
4/8/11 8:55 p.m.

Hi, and thanks for coms. I had not put side view for since the beginning of this contest ... I think the engine has its place largely on my drawing. I had reduce the front of car and a few touches here and there, and still work on the back. Do you still think I'm on the wrong package?

Hebergeur d'image

Birbilis
Birbilis New Reader
4/8/11 9:01 p.m.
Krozn wrote: Hi, and thanks for coms. I had not put side view for since the beginning of this contest ... I think the engine has its place largely on my drawing. I had reduce the front of car and a few touches here and there, and still work on the back. Do you still think I'm on the wrong package? Hebergeur d'image

hmmm I suggest giving it more muscular shoulders to help you raise the roof a little...and put some design details to help you fill the dead space right after the rear wheel...and make it longer

Krozn
Krozn New Reader
4/8/11 9:23 p.m.

I actually draw with the car lowered. the suspention is compressed (I think it's more presentable) and i'not in blue print and the rear is in progress an now i go to sleep, 4:24 am here

Franze
Franze New Reader
4/8/11 11:08 p.m.

hey javelin looking great!

Thanas_4
Thanas_4 New Reader
4/9/11 3:09 a.m.

In reply to Birbilis:

Nice work but it is too blury, don't you have a clearer image so we can see more details; Ενδιαφέρον είναι πάντως

In reply to 05xtsy: I like this one more than your previous entry, good job!

rotr8 you are right about the headligts, even though I believe that the ones I showed aren't from the celica.

Rotr8
Rotr8 New Reader
4/9/11 9:29 a.m.

to Thanas - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SONAR-00-05-CELICA-HALO-LED-PROJECTOR-BLACK-HEADLIGHTS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZMakeQ3aToyotaQ7cModelQ3aCelicaQQhashZitem415733320dQQitemZ280635847181QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_5139wt_1302

winning8
winning8
4/9/11 10:16 a.m.

In reply to Javelin:

I think the design looks great. Reminds me of an open top daytona prototype car from the grand am series. I'd drive it

Javelin
Javelin SuperDork
4/9/11 10:25 a.m.

In reply to winning8:

Hey, thanks! That's the look I was going for, though I fear the nose is too radical for production. The sides and rear are pretty "simple".

I don't really know what FF & GRM are looking for, so my first design was a modern take on classic 50's sports cars that nobody liked, then my second design was a very modern targa that was deemed "boring", and now I have this wild open-topped LMP/CanAm type car. Everybody seems to be gushing over "Elise Mk2" designs, so maybe that is where I should head.

Birbilis
Birbilis New Reader
4/9/11 10:59 a.m.

winning8
winning8 New Reader
4/9/11 11:00 a.m.

In reply to Javelin:

I'd prefer something that looks like it belongs on the track so yours really appeals to me. The front end that goes almost straight down between high fender arches. I don't want a huge nose on a mid engined car.

I think the rear of your design is perfect, but you're probably right about the front. Either too difficult or too expensive to produce. Maybe something smoother and simpler, but still short would work.

Birbilis
Birbilis New Reader
4/9/11 11:13 a.m.
Javelin wrote:

hmmm it has good lines, i find the driver position a bit lower than what the given chassis driver's position I suggest trying to define the areas of the car where sun hit and the areas where there are shadows, to make it more realistic...and if it is possible to paint it on a program like photoshop or gimp etc or using markers

Javelin
Javelin SuperDork
4/9/11 11:47 a.m.

Sorry, I'm old school. Just paper and pencils for me.

olpro
olpro New Reader
4/9/11 5:04 p.m.

In reply to Javelin:

Paper and pencils work just fine. I have no problem seeing your design intention. You could try adding a marker to your tool box, if you are motivated enough.

Thanas_4
Thanas_4 New Reader
4/9/11 5:18 p.m.

3 more sketches for today:

By [URL=http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt]team_kt[/URL] at 2011-04-09

By [URL=http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt]team_kt[/URL] at 2011-04-09

By [URL=http://profile.imageshack.us/user/Team_KT]Team_KT[/URL] at 2011-04-09

In reply to Rotr8: sorry, you were right. Thanks for pointing it out to us.

olpro
olpro New Reader
4/9/11 5:22 p.m.

Any more information on the JUDGING PANEL?

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
4/10/11 12:51 a.m.
olpro wrote: Any more information on the JUDGING PANEL?

Yep. Look for a press release this week.

NXXN
NXXN New Reader
4/10/11 7:22 a.m.

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