Following Michael Schumacher?

Sorry folks,

Already plastered in Off-Topic.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/schummi-critcally-injured-in-sking-accident/76596/page1/

Lots of parallel between sailing, racing and skiing. Michael Schumacher, wearing all the protective gear available, had a skiing accident that leaves him in critical condition at this time.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/29/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher-skiing-f1-motorsport/

It sounds like it's pretty touch and go right now. He's critical and in a coma.

wow that is sad

Billy_Bottle_Caps wrote: wow that is sad

Very sad news. I wish him and his family the best.

To think he spent his life in the most advanced safety gear ever developed and then apparently skis (probably at a pretty high level) with no helmet.

I have worn a bucket ever since I put my kids on skis, but before that I skied for 25 years in a toque. Two years ago I fell with my new helmet on. Smashed my helmet and wound up with a concussion and memory loss. So that could have been me had I not had kids.

Article says he was wearing a helmet.

unk577 wrote: Article says he was wearing a helmet.

Twice

In reply to Tom_Spangler:

It is not unusual to keep a patient like this in a coma. The brain surgery mentioned probably is where they remove a part of the skull to relieve brain swelling. If this is not done, patients may appear ok only to die several hours later.

He was found quickly and seems to be getting the proper treatment quickly. It is ironic after 7. F1 wins.

I trust good modern medicine...dr c

I don't think so, Dr.Chipperb. With a TBI, removing part of the skull to relieve swelling is pretty far down on the list of things to do. Swelling can be handled osmotically and with pressers, for example, and that would be way up on the list. The article says "The spokesman added that the injury was 'not life-threatening' and that Schumacher was conscious at the scene of the accident." That kinda implies a hemorrhage, which could require a surgery, depending on severity and type. Epidural would be a good guess, and he would get a whack for that. Of course, he could have just got a bolt for monitoring ICP, which is still a neurosurgical procedure. We really don't have enough info at this point.

In reply to Dr. Hess:

Thank you..

Trusting modern medicine to do their best. And he is in a University teaching hospital! which I feel is a good thing!?

I am sure that he is getting the best care possible. There are some very good neurosurgical care facilities in France. And I bet that with the skiing, they get plenty of experience.

Anything involving a neurosurgeon means, in layman's terms, "You're berkeleyed." We can only hope and pray that he recovers. It does sound like his car driving is done for a while. Skiing too.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/michael-schumacher-injured-skiing-accident-report-article-1.1560668

The Doc is correct. Sucks to be sure. The hope at this point is that he'll be around to raise his kids.

And how could I forget the ventriculostomy? I used to be able to knock one of those out in about 20 minutes. He certainly got one of those.

Dr. Hess wrote: Anything involving a neurosurgeon means, in layman's terms, "You're berkeleyed."

This does not bode well for "The Shoe"

Jean-François Payen, the chief anaesthetist at the Grenoble University Hospital Centre where Schumacher is being treated was quoted as saying the injury IS life threatening. Also, Schumacher has suffered bilateral lesions. According to what I've read and without using any furrin' words, that means his brain hit one side of the inside of his skull, then sloshed back and hit the other. The result of a hard hit, apparently.

copied this from another forum (which was copied from another source)

As family members rallied around Michael Schumacher Monday, the extent of his injuries became clearer. French publication Paris Match reports that an unnamed doctor at the Grenoble, France, hospital has confirmed that the seven-time Formula One World Champion 1 is battling a number of "very serious problems" stemming from his weekend skiing accident sustained in the French Alps. First, Schumacher endured cerebral hemorrhaging that was repeatedly "flooding the brain coaxial lesions" and he has also suffered a cerebral edema. Doctors reportedly have the racer in an induced coma as well as hypothermia in an attempt to reduce potential brain damage. Jean-François Payen, Head of Anesthesiology at the hospital said Monday at an early-morning press conference, "For the moment, we can not decide on the fate of Michael Schumacher."

Paris Match also reported that Schumacher's helmet had "exploded" into three pieces upon impact with a rock on the ski slope.

Its better for the helmet to explode than his skull! I hope he makes it through this.

Ugh: http://www.news.com.au/sport/motor-sport/michael-schumacher-latest-doctors-cant-yet-offer-prognosis-as-f1-legend-fights-for-life-after-suffering-head-injuries-in-ski-accident/story-fnec578q-1226791816066

I was thinking about this while snowboarding today in Vermont. When I mousetrapped on ice and hit he head hard, not wearing a helmet, I thought about it more. Fortunately, I seem to have no significant noticeable effects from what is probably my 4th or 5th concussion. Damn all the active sports I've done for that.

Sound like he is in worse condition than I first thought.

This sucks. What a talented guy.

Anyways. This happened right at time I am trying to convince my wife to try skiing with the kids. I gt a snowballs chance in hell of that now.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine:

I've been skiing expert runs for 40 years without significant damage. 35 of that without a helmet. This is a fluke that was mostly due to an adrenaline junkie skiing off the managed slopes. The difference between what he was doing and what you would be doing would be comparable to a F1 race vs. an autocross. Try that with her and see how far it goes.

Estimated 96 kmh when he hit the rock outcropping? Adrenaline junky indeed. Those speeds on a public slope are approaching asshat territory IMHO.

Basil Exposition wrote: In reply to Fueled by Caffeine: I've been skiing expert runs for 40 years without significant damage. 35 of that without a helmet. This is a fluke that was mostly due to an adrenaline junkie skiing off the managed slopes. The difference between what he was doing and what you would be doing would be comparable to a F1 race vs. an autocross. Try that with her and see how far it goes.

It only takes one incident. I am old and fat and I regularly hit over 100 km/h. That is not all that fast on a pair of skis. I just can't believe I did it for over 25 years without a helmet. On the one occasion where I needed a helmet two years ago I had one on thank god or I would most likely be dead or a vegetable right now.

And I have to say that you haven't lived until you have pitched it sideways at that speed trying desperately to scrub off speed. Its not a lot different from having a moment in a race car or on a bike.