Why did no one tell me these exist??!! Cloth front seats, vinyl rear, rubber floor, steel wheels, 3.5L EcoBoost - and under 40k brand new.
http://www.perrygaford.com/used/Ford/2015-Ford-Expedition+EL-010783bc0a0a00e00b1f78b768dd2a6a.htm?searchDepth=16:76
If this thing had the HD towing package I'd be taking off work early to go drive it, even though I have no idea how I'd pay for it. Holy crap, that pushes ALL my buttons. It's even the color I want.
...and I just combed through the Ford towing application guide. The parts listed in the HD towing package are an external trans oil cooler, an upgraded radiator, a brake controller, and the controller wiring. Not concerned about the wiring or controller, and I could do the upgraded radiator from Ford for $750 and get a nice external cooler for less than $250.
Which means I could have the package for $1000.
And that gets me 9100lbs on a trailer....
damn. Damn damn damn.
After giving WeatherTech a lot of my money, carpet in vehicles just seems stupid.
That is totally epic. I can't believe that they actually make something so spartan in today's world. I bet my wife would love that.
Does it have a third row?
The website lists it as "60-40 third row" but it sure doesn't look like it in the photos. Man, I sure don't need to be car poor right now. And I can't see trading in my Mustang on it. OTOH, I can probably get it for right at $500/ month...
Wait, that 3.5 can tow 9,100lbs?
Yes, I came across one of those when my wife and I were shopping large SUVs. I forget the exact asking price at the time, but it was stupid cheap. But they don't come with a third row, which I need.
3.5L Twin Turbo V6 EcoBoost, yes. With the HD towing pack the Expedition EL has a GCVW over 15,000 lbs
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/15RV&TT_Ford_Expedition_Sep30.pdf
With the 3.5 in a properly optioned F150, I think you can tow overover 11,000 lbs.
We have a short bed Chevrolet 4x4 base truck at work with a V6. The engine screams when you need to accelerate. I always think it should be a V8.
It seems like a lot of truck for a V6.
singleslammer wrote: That is totally epic. I can't believe that they actually make something so spartan in today's world.
SSV = Special Service Vehicle.
In other words, it's meant to be a cop car. That's why its pretty basic.
Still awesome though, make mine dark blue. 
Tactical Penguin wrote:singleslammer wrote: That is totally epic. I can't believe that they actually make something so spartan in today's world.SSV = Special Service Vehicle. In other words, it's meant to be a cop car. That's why its pretty basic. Still awesome though, make mine dark blue.
I went to Ford.com and the base Expedition starts at $44,500.......so I believe the everyday guy might be able to purchase or find these.
Datsun310Guy wrote: We have a short bed Chevrolet 4x4 base truck at work with a V6. The engine screams when you need to accelerate. I always think it should be a V8. It seems like a lot of truck for a V6.
You obviously aren't familiar with the EcoBoost engines. Not by any means a normal V6. They are the top performing engines in Ford's half ton chassis rigth now. Better torque, equal HP, and better mpg than the V8s.
Tactical Penguin wrote:singleslammer wrote: That is totally epic. I can't believe that they actually make something so spartan in today's world.SSV = Special Service Vehicle. In other words, it's meant to be a cop car. That's why its pretty basic. Still awesome though, make mine dark blue.
Exactly. I like the FedGov Dark gray, and those steel wheels are the deal-maker.
ultraclyde wrote: 3.5L Twin Turbo V6 EcoBoost, yes. With the HD towing pack the Expedition EL has a GCVW over 15,000 lbs http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/15RV&TT_Ford_Expedition_Sep30.pdf With the 3.5 in a properly optioned F150, I think you can tow overover 11,000 lbs.
Over 12,000, actually: http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/Ford_Linc_15RVTTgde_Sep30.pdf
Part of it is due to the aluminum body. This review does a good job of explaining it, but the basic idea is that since you have less truck to haul around, you can haul more stuff.
The everyday guy can certainly buy these, they just usually aren't interested in them. Kinda like trying to find a base contractor-grade pickup truck anymore.
If you find a dealership that serves a major department you can usually find a deal on leftover SSV vehicles.
These are cool! I love poverty/gov't spec vehicles. Everything you need, nothing you don't want.
Ford Fleet website for the SSV:
http://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/speciality-vehicle/expedition-special-service-vehicle/
The SSV site shows the expedition starting at $44,000+. So this seems like a decent deal for the price.
Interesting - the OP's link seems to indicate its a used vehicle, but it only has 188 miles on it. Obviously meant for fleet sales, which a normal person can't order (I think). Could this have been excess inventory from a fleet buy that wasn't completed?
I hope when the time comes to retire my Suburban they find me one of these instead of the Highlanders that are popping up. They have told us they are cutting back on the Subs because of price but a few of us still need a real truck to carry wheelchair ramps and snow plows.
ultraclyde wrote: and better mpg than the V8s.
Not with a trailer on behind, from what I've heard.
Streetwiseguy wrote:ultraclyde wrote: and better mpg than the V8s.Not with a trailer on behind, from what I've heard.
Depends on the trailer. Hauling Adrian's Saab back from Kentucky I still got ~16 mpg. Hauling my travel trailer home it was more like 9.
Tom_Spangler wrote:Streetwiseguy wrote:Depends on the trailer. Hauling Adrian's Saab back from Kentucky I still got ~16 mpg. Hauling my travel trailer home it was more like 9.ultraclyde wrote: and better mpg than the V8s.Not with a trailer on behind, from what I've heard.
Yep, I think that unless you are towing a LOT, the trailer mileage shouldn't be a huge deal breaker.
Some of the standard features don't jive with the pictures.
ultraclyde wrote: ...and I just combed through the Ford towing application guide. The parts listed in the HD towing package are an external trans oil cooler, an upgraded radiator, a brake controller, and the controller wiring. Not concerned about the wiring or controller, and I could do the upgraded radiator from Ford for $750 and get a nice external cooler for less than $250. Which means I could have the package for $1000. And that gets me 9100lbs on a trailer.... damn. Damn damn damn.
to get the full 9100 lbs you also need the heavy payload package in the trucks. Which has a whole different dif, wheels are also 7 lug not 6 for it... etc...
I've ... loaded up my ecoboost with a 2cu yd dump trailer that was... loaded properly. (about 3 cuyd scoop in it.) tranny temp never hit above 205*F while towing. She did it pretty well too. my eco has the lowest diff (sucks for towing.) and is rated at 8k lbs max. I know I was closer to 10k ...
I actually got worse mpg towing a uhual 6x12 trailer with some chairs in it... both trailers were dual axle but the uhual felt like the freaking brakes were on the ENTIRE time...
edit above is for 2014. the 2015's all jumped about 1k in max payload and the whole range seems to have had a boost to max tow ratings. Other than lighter truck I'm not sure why.
I wonder if in 5-10 years these things will flood the used market like the CVPI and 9C1?
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