GNX or umm.. what?

This is different.

Is it stock?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Buick-LeSabre-Turbo-3-8L-V6-Sweet-Ride-Black-Exterior-Maroon-Interior-/180738699650?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a14ddb182

I guess it is

http://www.beforeblack.net/lesabre.htm

http://forums.aaca.org/f115/1978-lesabre-turbo-coupe-production-numbers-184494.html

Yeah, it is. They also made regals with this or a similar setup. They were carbureted and had a lot of problems. I worked on many of these in the early 80's.

What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

pinchvalve...

This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

I have seen one or two of these over the years, I think you were limited to one of 4 colors when they were new: black, silver, burgundy, and maybe white. ALL had the same burgundy velour upholstery.

Because Buick could never quite make up it's mind whether it was a performance car builder, or a near luxury car builder, there were "performance" models of the Le Sabre up through the mid to late '80s. There was even a "performance" version of the Electra.

mmmmmm T-type Regals

These LeSabres also came with the 402 cid engine. A friend of mine had one in High School and it was a pretty nice car. It wasn't a sports car, but it handled ok for such a big boat. The big V8 would be better suited to this beast than the turbo V6 I'd think.

Joe Gearin wrote: These LeSabres also came with the 402 cid engine. A friend of mine had one in High School and it was a pretty nice car. It wasn't a sports car, but it handled ok for such a big boat. The big V8 would be better suited to this beast than the turbo V6 I'd think.

That was actually a 403.

I have not seen one in years. There were 3 on the street that I grew up on. Of course it is Flint, home of Buick.

bravenrace wrote:

Joe Gearin wrote: These LeSabres also came with the 402 cid engine. A friend of mine had one in High School and it was a pretty nice car. It wasn't a sports car, but it handled ok for such a big boat. The big V8 would be better suited to this beast than the turbo V6 I'd think.

That was actually a 403.

401....402.....403.....whatever works

For real thrills get an 89 Turbo Trans Am. 3.8L turbo Buick V6, 12" 2 piston PBR front brakes, rear discs, LSD, 150+ mph Here's a run at the Texas Mile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuTVy2_2qQ

The 403 was an Oldsmobile motor. Was also placed in a lot of 79 Trans Ams.

The 89 Turbo Trans Am - GTA - would love one. I saw a couple at Barrett Jackson at this years spring auction in Florida.

pinchvalve wrote: What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

integraguy wrote: pinchvalve... This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro...

So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro.

That would be just about every car, wouldn't it? :)

i've only ever seen 2 of those in person- and one of them had an 84 or 85 T Type SFI motor and trans swapped into it.

I don't care what kind of car it is, I would not buy a car from someone who's so lazy that they couldn't move some of the crap off the rear seat before photographing it...and what's with that plastic covering the front seats by the way?

out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre?

the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

Keith wrote:

pinchvalve wrote: What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

integraguy wrote: pinchvalve... This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro...

Mid sixties 2-ton trucks weigh less than modern Mustangs and Camaros.

novaderrik wrote: out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre? the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

Gee I don't know, maybe because it is a RWD 3.8 turbo GM coupe and a direct descendant to the GNX

http://www.beforeblack.net/abouttur.htm

I haz lurned sumfin

aussiesmg wrote:

novaderrik wrote: out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre? the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

Gee I don't know, maybe because it is a RWD 3.8 turbo GM coupe and a direct descendant to the GNX http://www.beforeblack.net/abouttur.htm I haz lurned sumfin

not really.. it's a full size car that had the carbureted 3.8 and also had a Buick badge on it, but is otherwise totally different car than the mid size Regal that would eventually get made into the GNX.

the turbocharged 1980 Chevy Monte Carlo is more of an ancestor to the GNX than the LeSabre was since it's built on the same chassis and is pretty much the same car with different styling.

modernbeat wrote:

Keith wrote:

pinchvalve wrote: What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

integraguy wrote: pinchvalve... This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro...

Mid sixties 2-ton trucks weigh less than modern Mustangs and Camaros.

That Chevy is Awesome. It's like a life size Tonka Truck.

In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid:

That truck needs a Duramax/Allison conversion

novaderrik wrote:

aussiesmg wrote:

novaderrik wrote: out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre? the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

Gee I don't know, maybe because it is a RWD 3.8 turbo GM coupe and a direct descendant to the GNX http://www.beforeblack.net/abouttur.htm I haz lurned sumfin

not really.. it's a full size car that had the carbureted 3.8 and also had a Buick badge on it, but is otherwise totally different car than the mid size Regal that would eventually get made into the GNX. the turbocharged 1980 Chevy Monte Carlo is more of an ancestor to the GNX than the LeSabre was since it's built on the same chassis and is pretty much the same car with different styling.

1. It's a 78 of course it is a carbed car.

2. As an example, are you saying an R32 GTR is not the descendant to the R34 GTR. it is a completely different car, made by the same company, and the same size.

3. I'm going to stick with the Buick LeSabre 3.8 turbo from 1978 being the earlier development version on the Buick GNX 3.8 turbo

4. The posted link shows the natural year by year progression..

Just saying.

BTW I wasn't looking to buy it, just interested to see if it was original

i don't know what a GTR is- sounds foreign to me, so i'm ignorant on that subject and i'll have to take your word for it..

but the 78 turbo LeSabre isn't a direct ancestor to the GNX- it has an engine that eventually developed into the GNX engine, but it's a totally different car that was built on the bigger B body chassis- which would eventually become the Buick Roadmaster..

OK, so according to that, the 64 Mustang GT is not a descendant of the 2011 Mustang GT, hell it doesn't even have a chassis.

You lose 5 man points for not knowing what a GTR is, heathen.