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Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
7/22/12 6:45 p.m.

I've been a rotary kind of guy since I was 17 and I drove my first RX-7. That high winding scream still sends chills up my spine. 7000+ rpms of wonder. Love them.

Then I bought this:

It's a 1989 Thunderbird Super Coupe.

It's got one of these:

3.8 liters of supercharged goodness backed up by a 5 speed. 12 PSI of boost available immediately. What is lag, cause this ain't got none.

berkeley a rotary.

The SC has got the the one thing the rotary never had. 310 foot pounds of torque at 2000rpm. I don't even care that it only turns 5 grand. That it's an antique design dating back to the 50s. Or even that it's almost guaranteed to blow a head gasket at some time. I don't even care that it's bolted in a 3600 pound car.

At 60 my RX-7 was turning 4000 rpms, getting 20mpg and if you wanted to pass someone you better catch a lower gear. The SC at 60 is turning 1700 rpms and getting 26-27mpg. Want to pass someone, just mash the gas. You only need to down shift if you want to blow their doors off. I paid less for the entire car than it would cost to rebuild a rotary.

I came down an on ramp to the interstate yesterday. Not pushing it hard, just getting on it. Shifting 1st through 4th at 4000 rpms. A glance at the speedo showed 110mph. Not what I'm used to, that's for sure. I'm gonna have to control the thunder switch on this one. Love it.

berkeley a rotary.

Anyone have a Super Coupe drivetrain I can stick in my RX-7?

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
7/22/12 6:48 p.m.

Torque is very addictive

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/22/12 7:44 p.m.

that's not torque...

this is torque:

Not the truck I used to drive.. but similar

Seriously though, nice looking SC. Always liked the looks of those T-Birds

Will
Will Dork
7/22/12 7:48 p.m.

Glad you're having fun with it. You should join us at the SC Shootout in Clay City, KY this year.

SC Shootout

donalson
donalson PowerDork
7/22/12 7:57 p.m.

they came with a manual gear box option?... always liked the idea of one...

Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
7/22/12 8:02 p.m.
Will wrote: Glad you're having fun with it. You should join us at the SC Shootout in Clay City, KY this year. SC Shootout

Hmm, that's tempting, but I'm not sure the car will be ready for that long a haul. Close to 600 miles for me. I've still got to do the clutch and brakes. I also need to do the coupler in the supercharger to get rid of the rattle. I've also got a Lemons race the weekend before.

Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
7/22/12 8:04 p.m.

And yes, torque is addictive.

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar Dork
7/22/12 8:12 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote:

Is a radiator cap on your checklist?

And torque is King.

JtspellS
JtspellS HalfDork
7/22/12 8:15 p.m.

I can admit i miss torque yes but you can always add a SC to anything lol

Very nice, more plans for the future?

Ranger50
Ranger50 SuperDork
7/22/12 8:36 p.m.

Hopefully tomorrow, I will have all 525 ft/lbs @ 1800 rpm of torque available for altering the earth's rotation.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Reader
7/22/12 8:44 p.m.

Cummins ?

Ranger50 wrote: Hopefully tomorrow, I will have all 525 ft/lbs @ 1800 rpm of torque available for altering the earth's rotation.
Ranger50
Ranger50 SuperDork
7/22/12 8:48 p.m.

In reply to Donebrokeit:

7.3 PowerStroke. It's still "stock" until today.

Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
7/22/12 9:05 p.m.

In reply to JtspellS:

Right now I'm taking care of deferred maintenance. The brakes are pretty much trashed from rotor rust. Parts are on the way for that. Front calipers, rebuild kits for the rear, new rotors on all four corners, EBC yellow pads. I was hoping to get that done this weekend.

The fuel tank needs to be dropped. Something is leaking when the tank is full.

While it's out, I'm going to do the clutch. It's got a fairly high pedal and isn't going to be long for this world and the tank has to come out to do it.

That will do for starts. I'm probably going to keep this on civilized for now. I've still got this for my ragged edge, beat you to death while roasting you legs and making your ears bleed rotary fix.

Wonder how long a 12A would last with a supercharger.

Ranger50
Ranger50 SuperDork
7/22/12 9:08 p.m.

In reply to Toyman01:

Fuel filler neck grommet is torn causing the leak when full. Someone probably did a FP at one time and hamfisted the neck back in.

Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
7/22/12 9:17 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote: In reply to Toyman01: Fuel filler neck grommet is torn causing the leak when full. Someone probably did a FP at one time and hamfisted the neck back in.

That's what I thought, but I can reach that and it appears dry. The first and only fill up had fuel seeping down the side of the tank on the passenger side. It looks like the fill tube would leak down the back of the tank. I'm leaning toward either the gasket on the fuel pump access or there is apparently some kind of vent on the top of the tank. Hell, for all I know the tank might have the only rust on the entire car. Unfortunately I won't know for sure until I get the tank on the ground.

I'm probably going to do the fuel pump while I'm at it.

corytate
corytate Dork
7/22/12 10:17 p.m.

damn you for making me want one of those creatures. didn't know they came with a man trans...

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair PowerDork
7/22/12 10:27 p.m.

berkeley a rotary. that made me LOL.

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
7/22/12 11:26 p.m.

you think that's a lot of torque in a car?

a sheltered life, you live..

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro SuperDork
7/22/12 11:33 p.m.

Agreed.

500+ is flat out awesome.

If you've never driven a Cadillac powered by a 472 or 500 (the pre-smog ones) or a pre-smog Lincoln with a 460, you really need to.

There's something incredible about the feel of a car that heavy getting underway that quickly.

Spinout007
Spinout007 Dork
7/23/12 12:00 a.m.

70's vette with a blown 454 and a 4sp, scared the crap out of me. Wasn't much for top end with 4:11 rear, but holy crap could it get there in a hurry. Glad it wasn't mine.

sobe_death
sobe_death Reader
7/23/12 3:40 a.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: Agreed. 500+ is flat out awesome. If you've never driven a Cadillac powered by a 472 or 500 (the pre-smog ones) or a pre-smog Lincoln with a 460, you really need to. There's something incredible about the feel of a car that heavy getting underway that quickly.

Agreed. My Dad's old Chrysler Imperial 3 speed and a well worked 440 with a cam that didn't wake up until about 4k. That's an interesting feeling. It really makes you question the safety of lap belts.

petegossett
petegossett UltraDork
7/23/12 7:06 a.m.

I had a '71 Roadrunner clone with a 440 in it. I didn't have much history in the car, but I'm guessing it had an aftermarket cam/intake/carb. It was pretty amazing how the speedometer and fuel gauge were inversely proportionate when you layed into it.

Steve Chryssos
Steve Chryssos Associate Publisher
7/23/12 8:49 a.m.
Toyman01 wrote: berkeley a rotary. berkeley a rotary.

I'm pretty sure that NWA has a song called "Berkeley A Rotary!"

scardeal
scardeal Dork
7/23/12 8:55 a.m.

Torques. I miss it

DrBoost
DrBoost UberDork
7/23/12 9:34 a.m.

My first car was a pre-smog Cadillac with a 500. I miss that car.

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