Honda CR-Z HPD

http://automobiles.honda.com/cr-z/hpd.aspx

Supercharger? Check - 187hp 171 lb-ft

2 pot brakes? Check

LSD? Check

6-Speed Manual? Check

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Page works for me. Those spring rates on a car that heavy should be hilarious.

Page isn't working on my Android either.

That sounds like a big step in the right direction, though. I'm also more than a little excited about the rumored Fiesta RS we might get here in the states.

I am assuming this is what we are talking about. If so, I want

http://hpd.honda.com/street-performance/street-projects/hpd-supercharged-cr-z/

FINALLY. Now what's the price???

I'm guessing that it's all add-ons. Just hopefuly not dealer installed only.

Those spring rates can't be real, can they? Did they forget a zero or something?

I don't get the 'Integrated Motor Assist'. Is it a hybrid or do you have to Fred Flintstone the thing?

Bobzilla wrote: Those spring rates can't be real, can they? Did they forget a zero or something?

I was wondering the same thing. I figured for a factory sporty car of that size we'd be looking at at least 200 F/R

They seem really soft, it has to be a misprint. That or it's not really a performance car. I'm too lazy to look this up, but what are the rates for the normal version?

I can't find the spring rates, but could they be quoting kg/cm ? That would increase them by a factor of >5.

I love how they have all these specs on the car right down to spring rates, yet don't mention curb weight...

I don't think the spring rates are all that out of line for a production car. They seem a little on the soft side, but I think the stock rates on my CRX were less than that. I know this car is heavier, but just to give an idea.

Not to nitpick, cause I'm glad they're building something sporty but, too bad its not just a tsx drivetrain. 2000 lbs ish/k24/6speed. I'd consider buying something like that.

Also, you'd think a turbo would be better for mpg.

Those spring rates could be real. There are lots of stock cars with rates around there that do ok. I don't know if anyone has ever complimented the ride quality of an SRT4 Neon and they have rates in that ballpark, like 170/145, and they are a slightly heavier car.

Remember, the aftermarket uses spring rates in part to bandaid stuff. Like, old mustangs have to run stiff springs because of where the spring connects. MacStrut cars can run lower rates than SLA cars and have the same 'wheel rate'. So i think those #s are plausible.

Im curious to see the MPG effect, but i definitely like the car. I was reading an interview with an HPD person who said that the CRZ was their testbed for a new process or approach that is more 'whole vehicle'. As such i think HPD offerings will only get better from here on out.

I thought I could make do with two seats, but no dice. So... Fiesta ST for me.