I wanna get into rallycross I am more of an American car guy with that being the case I am leaning towards an older rwd vs powered car possibly 2nd gen camaro which is what my first car was. My question is would an old hobby class dirt track car be legal to run in modified rwd? This is my first post but I love this forum!
EvanB
UltimaDork
6/30/15 2:28 p.m.
A dirt track car would not be legal for SCCA rallycross. It must be a production car.
If you have a nearby region that does non-SCCA sanctioned rallycross you may be able to run it but that would limit your options.
What is your location? There are a few Rallycrossers here that could give more insight on specific regions.
Bttowns
New Reader
6/30/15 2:46 p.m.
I live west of atlanta ga i figured there would be some reason it would not be legal even though it's a frame of a production car not a tube chassis car
kylini
HalfDork
6/30/15 2:55 p.m.
Bttowns wrote:
I live west of atlanta ga i figured there would be some reason it would not be legal even though it's a frame of a production car not a tube chassis car
There's a guy who's keeping enough of the "original frame" of a VW truck to be legal for modified class. If this hypothetical car is still on its original frame and has its original roof, it should be good to go. Windshield and window nets (or real windows) are required.
But yes, production vehicles only. If it has a VIN and a roof, it'll probably slide.
Bttowns
New Reader
6/30/15 3:23 p.m.
I can't do a mustang my Poppaw would roll over in his grave he retired from gm and raced chevrolet so probably looking at a camaro, s10, or maybe a nova not completely against the idea of an old bmw but leaning more towards American
Early 90's Mustang notch back would make a great American rallyx ride.
On the plus side, you could drive it to/from the event and it would sound awesome as it throws dirt everywhere
See if your region will allow 2WD pickups, ranger or s10 could be fun. Volvo 240s are fun and have Dana 30 rear ends
OK, GM guy. With time, effort, and money, it shouldn't be too hard to appease your GM gods on a rally course.
I like to partake in some... "un-sanctioned" rallycrossing in a Hornet class dirt car.
parker
Reader
6/30/15 6:09 p.m.
In reply to wae: And they are kickass rallycross cars
Bttowns
New Reader
6/30/15 8:10 p.m.
What is the advantage of a fox body vs 2nd or 3rd Gen camaro? I have thought about neon but I really like v8s
IMCA Hobby stocks would probably be legal for RallyX. It's usually a G body frame with a cage. Most all of them were production cars.
In reply to Bttowns: Also, keep in mind that your two favorite cars may not be the most fun for you on a rallycross course or you may not be the fastest in.
I will also do a rallycross soon.
I would buy a cheap rusted out late 70s early 80s second gen fbody with a V8. My recipe for rallycross awesome sauce is...
Add intake, exhaust, 235/75/15 BFG mud terrains, 3, 4, or 5speed manual trans, 3.73 or 4.11 gears and a locker, used LSD or weld the diff.
I don't think it would be competitive, but it would be fairly cheap, and very fun. I'd love to cruise it on the street. I think it would get a lot of attention.
I can't think of anything RWD and American that would be realistically competitive in Mod RWD unless you plan to buy something late-model (e.g. new Mustang or something). That said, there are plenty of things American RWD that you can have a ton of fun rallycrossing.
The fastest older RWD American car I've seen on course was Nonack's old Mustang. It had tons of power, but didn't much like to maneuver on some of the tighter courses, lol.
Jerry
SuperDork
7/1/15 6:06 a.m.
If you go 3rd gen FBody I think craigslist might be your friend. 2nd gen might be too "collectable" but 3rd seems to be disposable anymore.
Bttowns
New Reader
7/1/15 8:11 a.m.
I'm not necessarily looking to be competitive as much as have fun I'm a redneck from Ga and like getting sideways like the Dukes haha. Midniteson you are right on track for what I'm thinking some of the late 70s camaros can be had for less than a grand and small blocks are cheap may do an automatic but would prefer a manual. Irish i have to say i have loved reading your build thread on you e30 and it is what really got me to looking into rallycross
I looked at, and measured suspension components, wheel clearance, etc. on a number of RWD GM cars when I settled on my rallyX Mustang. F-bodies will need a LOT of bracing to not damage the unibody within a season of RallyX. G-bodies are better, IF you can find one with a solid frame- the rust commonly found in front of rear trailing arms kept me away from them. A B-body should hold up, it's just going to be heavy and gigantic. They'll fit a 30" tire without much work too
Here's the build thread on the Mustang if you want some (bad) inspiration: Mudstang!
300c?
Dodge Charger?
Both with automatics though.
Lots of sideways can be had in other cars as well if you relax the V8 only part.
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Bttowns
New Reader
7/1/15 12:49 p.m.
I'm not dead set on v8s just that is what I am more comfortable working on being all but one car I have ever owned had a sbc or 4.3 v6 I'm 6'3 350 so most little cars don't work for me if I do not do a chevy I'll probably lean more towards bmw I know the e30 is popular how well does the e36 work or possibly a 5 series. This would be my first venture in to motorsports sorry to ask so many questions and I love the build thread on the fox body
wae
HalfDork
7/1/15 12:52 p.m.
What about a North*-swapped Fiero? That would be crazy wild.