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Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
11/29/15 1:01 p.m.

The concedencing enviro crowd has moved on to Tesla's and Leaf's, I know, I live in Seattle. People who think that prius people are smug environmentalists must be living in 2002 or in some very very backwater part of this country.

It's a great family car form factor. The mileage is good and the hatchback is very practical for those with kids. Also, they don't break. I take taxi's to the airport frequently and I always ask the drivers how many miles their Priuses have on them and they are all over the 1/4 million mile club. One was 420K or something.

WildScotsRacing
WildScotsRacing New Reader
11/29/15 9:32 p.m.

Wait, so you're saying the Tesla and leaf crowd looks down on Prius and Volt owners??? I now want a Prius with a loud exhaust KIDDING kidding...

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
11/29/15 9:44 p.m.
WildScotsRacing wrote: Wait, so you're saying the Tesla and leaf crowd looks down on Prius and Volt owners???

they have for a few years. you are seriously late to the party. I live in a city where there is a blink charger in every parking garage.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
11/30/15 11:29 a.m.
I've been driving since 1965 (mostly manual) and I've never had to replace a clutch OR a transmission or synchros … the only time I've ever double clutched was when I had cars without synchros … on the track I do heelandtoe but that's rev matching … sorta the same thing, but not quite …

The insight has a massive ratio spread where there are huge RPM jumps between the first few gears. It's basically a 3spd with two overdrive gears tacked on the end. You know how most people would tell you not to go back into 1st unless you're at a stop or very close to it? The insight is borderline dangerous to drive in certain conditions unless you back to first gear. It's a 1.0L car with a 72mph 2nd gear. People go back into 1st at 20+ mph just to keep up with normal traffic because low rpm in 2nd gear is basically WOT coasting (or at least that's what it feels like). That doesn't happen in a normally geared car because usually anything geared tall has low-rpm torque. So normal-gearing conventions of getting normal lifespans out of synchros without double clutched downshifts don't really equate into the strange world of the insight.

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