Butch_86
Butch_86 New Reader
6/22/09 4:21 p.m.

Is it worth saving?

I got off the phone with my buddy a while ago and his 1991 Probe GT just blew a spark plug. I haven’t seen the car yet but he says that some of the threading came out of the head. It has 130K on the clock and he is at least the third owner and it unknown how much the first two owners thrashed it. It is at least the second clutch. This is his DD.

A quick survey of eBay shows a head rebuilt for 199 bucks Should we bother or just let it go??

DrBoost
DrBoost Reader
6/22/09 4:26 p.m.

Can you heli-coil it??

alex
alex HalfDork
6/22/09 4:31 p.m.

Or Time-Sert. Good stuff, that.

benzbaron
benzbaron Reader
6/22/09 4:36 p.m.

I had misthreaded and overtorqued plug repaired on my car, I think they used a keen sert which has worked.

Strizzo
Strizzo Dork
6/22/09 5:38 p.m.

It's pretty common on those cars. There is a kit that you can buy that goes into the hole and then expands to cut threads on the way out then you can set the helicoil in the head. Or you could use the old shaving cream trick. Either way, 130k is just getting broke in on those things.

Nashco
Nashco SuperDork
6/22/09 5:56 p.m.

As mentioned, you can fix the head without even removing it. Don't let a car go for something that minor. However, sometimes when the threads are blown out, it's because the car was overheated at a bajillion degrees. I'm not saying that's the case, but if it is then a helicoil isn't going to fix the problem...the other 90% of the time it's an easy fix.

Bryce

Travis_K
Travis_K HalfDork
6/22/09 6:11 p.m.

Yea, my dad had to do that on his subaru, its not that big a deal, just fix it.

Butch_86
Butch_86 New Reader
6/22/09 6:22 p.m.

Awesome, I'll Stop by his place later and see just how bad it is and go from there.
Does anyone know if you can fit a twin cam head to it from an FE-DOHC Kia Sportage?

Strizzo
Strizzo Dork
6/22/09 8:45 p.m.

no, the fe3 head won't just drop on.

Nashco: the plug threads on these things are notoriously weak, even if you didn't cross-thread/booger any of the threads, if you try to change the plugs with the engine warm you have a good chance of unscrewing the threads along the plug. same with the turbo manifold, but those you can drill out to use a 10mm stud instead of the factory 8mm. you do have to drill out the holes in the manifold too, of course.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 Dork
6/23/09 8:50 a.m.

Fix it, keep running it. I have the same motor in my car. It's SO worth fixing it.

Make SURE that it's actually a F2T head for $189 if you go that route. There aren't a whole lot of difference, but the Turbo valves are better/stronger. I believe the cam is the same.

pres589
pres589 New Reader
6/23/09 9:14 a.m.

Either pull the head and replace the few HLA's that are surely gummed up, maybe do a basic valve job, etc. Or else do a simple Heli-coil / Time / et cetera thread insert being careful to control cutting mess from falling into the cylinder, and move on. Happened to me, went the more difficult route, either works.

CarKid1989
CarKid1989 Reader
6/24/09 5:15 p.m.

shaving cream trick?

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
6/24/09 5:26 p.m.
  • Fill cylinder with shaving cream
  • Cut threads, crap drops into shaving cream.
  • Have friend stand over engine with safety goggles to tell you if the threads look good while you crank the engine over a few times.
  • Run
Nashco
Nashco SuperDork
6/24/09 5:28 p.m.
CarKid1989 wrote: shaving cream trick?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=shaving+cream+spark+plug&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

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