Is there an equivalent Miata photo?

Probably not, without the roof they won't on their side.

Yeah, found a few upside down, but none on edge.

what is that? E30? Besides, I thought you lifted the Miatas the same we we lift the MINIs- by hand!

Yep, E30. I haven't put the Miata up on jackstands yet, so thought I'd ask for a pic before I start looking for the proper jack/jackstand points on the chassis.

I am pretty sure that is an Anson original picture before the jacking points were added to the photo.

I'm sure there are people out there who will object, but you can lift the car up at any point along that seam at the edges. May wrinkle in some places, but Spec Miatas are lifted by those seams at random places all the time.

I just use the seem. A block of wood will keep it from wrinkling. To be honest I just use a jack with the cup removed and lift in the centre of the seem to get both wheels off the ground. No wrinkling in the 3 years I've been doing it. If it was rusty I may think twice though.

I jack on the seam all the time. Not sure how they get so beat to hell. I've never had a problem, but Tom Celica is crushed FLAT at all four corners. Looks like someone hammered them. One of these days I'll straighten it all out.

I jack the MR2 from the middle on the side sometimes to change two wheels at an autocross. Depends on my mood. But it's never bent the seam.

It's just 2 of the 3 E30s I've had, even the jack pads were collapsed in toward the center of the car..........just wanted to make sure I put the car up right.

Since it's going on 4 jackstands, to rebuild the entire suspension, down to the ball joints and bushings, didn't want to screw anything up.

Miatas are really easy to lift. When we'd work on SMs with a 2-post lift, we'd just take the cups off and slide the arms under at almost arbitrary points. Since the seam was the lowest point in that area, it always rested on the seam. Never had a problem.

for lifting my NA with a jack, I have a hockey puck with a groove cut in it Cost $1

That picture is an r3vlimited tech section original thanks to an owner there.

I used the seam for a while, both wrinkled pretty bad, this on a 99. But then again it might have been when I put it up on stands using the seam. Then you are putting a lot of weight on the seam. Need to make a cool wood/ delrin jacking plate. I worry about lifting on a floor jack at that spot close to the oil pan, always concerned might punch a hole in the thing. Rear Punkin seems OK.

Also used those four rail like spots, but again it bent worse than the seam did.

The above pic is good. The four places on the "rails" are great for lifts. Never had any bending on them, but those lift pads were fairly good-sized, not sharp points like a jackstand. Gotta nail the placement too, the rest of the "rail" is buttah.

I've never used the ones at the rear of the front control arm. Pumpkin and front crossbar/subframe are my favorites.

I tend to use the FM "jack adapter" to lift the car using the seam/rocker and put axle stands under the marked points on the rocker.

The problem for a lot of us is that the rear factory locations for jack stands, um, "aren't what they used to be". I was always told the entire frame rail was a "No", but if that back segment is OK, that would sure solve a lot of problems. Anyone actually use this on a regular basis? Also, what about the rear LCA attachment points? I assume its solid enough and found that I can get a good steady lock in with my jackstands. Is that not recommended b/c it can change the alignment when the car is lowered on/lifted? (Starting a repaint soon and don't want to crawl around the car for a week, so this is a timely topic)

The rear subframe should be strong enough to hold the car with jackstands.

redstack wrote: Also used those four rail like spots, but again it bent worse than the seam did.

Wait, your saying the stock frame rails buckled under the weight of the car?

That is ridiculous.

z31maniac wrote:

redstack wrote: Also used those four rail like spots, but again it bent worse than the seam did.

Wait, your saying the stock frame rails buckled under the weight of the car? That is ridiculous.

That's kinda normal for a Japanese car.

Knurled wrote:

z31maniac wrote:

redstack wrote: Also used those four rail like spots, but again it bent worse than the seam did.

Wait, your saying the stock frame rails buckled under the weight of the car? That is ridiculous.

That's kinda normal for a Japanese car.

They're also not "frame rails" exactly, they're more like "floor reinforcements."