Jag XE / XF - enlightenment requested| Grassroots Motorsports forum |

Duke MegaDork
10/26/18 2:05 p.m.

I'm doing some bench shopping for my eventual replacement of the TSX. I probably won't buy for at least a year, but I like to look (who doesn't?). As an excercise, I've been open-searching by these criteria:

Price range is around $40,000 +/- a little.
Midsize sedan or wagon, no SUVs / SAVs / CUVs / designation-du-jour.
AWD preferred.

Jaguar XEs and XFs are in the upper part of my budget. Mostly in the Premium trim.

I don't know anything about these, but they look pretty good. What does the hive say?

Can someone Cliff Notes the difference between XE and XF for me? Both look like midsize sedans.

Thanks!

Duke MegaDork
10/26/18 2:20 p.m.

Duke said:
Can someone Cliff Notes the difference between XE and XF for me? Both look like midsize sedans.

Ah, looks like the XF is the same chassis but slightly longer and slightly higher. Kind of like the S60 Dynamic vs. Inscription.

And Bob bless Jaguar - they discuss towing capacity of both cars (luxury sedans, mind you), in big print, right on the first page of the model information site. That's awesome.

Sonic UltraDork
10/26/18 2:35 p.m.

XE is notably smaller, like 3 series. XF is more like a 5 series.

They sure are pretty. We’re looking at a lightly used XF sportbrake for Mrs. Sonics next car. They are already down to $50k used for less than a year with under 10k miles.

tr8todd Dork
10/26/18 3:12 p.m.

Jags depreciate fast. I was looking at a mint 10 year old XKR with 34K miles. Never seen rain or snow. Owned by an older couple as a toy for their summer house on the cape. That car was 100K new. I could have gotten it for $15K. Wife wants another Range Rover and not another convertible, so the hunt continues.

Duke MegaDork
10/26/18 3:24 p.m.

As just mentioned in the Alfa thread, whatever I buy will have a 10-15 year tenure in my fleet. Depreciation curves suck, but I will power through it to the flat part, assuming I buy new. It's not like I'll be trading it in after 36-48 months and getting hammered on the residual value.

Duke MegaDork
10/27/18 9:53 a.m.

So, anybody ever drive one? How are they?

And since Alfas are a massive implosion waiting to happen, how reliable are the Jags?

STM317 SuperDork
10/27/18 11:45 a.m.

Duke said:
So, anybody ever drive one? How are they?

And since Alfas are a massive implosion waiting to happen, how reliable are the Jags?

Not sure how much weight you put in rankings from JD Power or Consumer Reports, but neither one has been kind to Jaguars recent models when it comes to quality rankings.

CR only had sufficient data for the F Pace, but it ranked "much worse than average" with infotainment issues and differential leaks being the most common complaints:

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars/

poopshovel again MegaDork
10/28/18 5:33 a.m.

Sonic said:
XE is notably smaller, like 3 series. XF is more like a 5 series.

They sure are pretty. We’re looking at a lightly used XF sportbrake for Mrs. Sonics next car. They are already down to $50k used for less than a year with under 10k miles.

I support this decision. Man those are good looking.

Devilsolsi Reader
10/29/18 2:51 p.m.

My dad has a 2009 (i think) XF. His has the 5.0 v8. It is big, and heavy and feels it's weight. But it is also beautiful and very comfortable and the engine sounds awesome. I guess it depends on what you are buying it for. Great car for cruising on the highway. Wouldn't be so great on tight, twisty roads.

The XE seems really small. I was excited when they announced it, but I just can't seem to get excited by that car.

Duke MegaDork
10/29/18 10:07 p.m.

In reply to Devilsolsi :

Thanks for the input. I generally prefer smaller cars, so I'll try an XE and see what I think. I don't need or want too much space, just enough for a few adults to be comfortable. We have a van for longer trips with more people.