Truck in question....
Truck in question....
I mean, if the truck is in good shape and had the motor replaced, then it's probably in fine shape and I'd just do those couple things to help the longevity of the motor. You don't necessarily need to tune it.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I mean, if the truck is in good shape and had the motor replaced, then it's probably in fine shape and I'd just do those couple things to help the longevity of the motor. You don't necessarily need to tune it.
Yeah, Ill go take a look at it and see what he has for service records....
I always think these threads are misleading. You get the motherlode of every problem ever experienced all lumped together in a single thread.
Even when a model has a bad reliability record overall, the majority of the units go on to a long trouble free life. I have a friend with a 6.0 powerstroke. 2005 I think. 300,000 trouble free kilometers on a stock never modified or abused engine. If you spend any time on the forums you would nrver believe it would go that distance without cracked heads and the rest. Service records and history should be far more important factors than anecdotal horror stories of catastrophic failure.
In reply to bearmtnmartin:
Absolutely agree!
It was owned by a lady who towed her horses, and the last owner built it as a chase truck for UTV racing. (thats slightly worrying, "racing" "chase truck"...) He had the frame extended and the box built.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: You don't necessarily need to tune it.
You have to do some sort of tuner to delete the DPF/cat and turn the EGR off. You don't need to buy a $1,500 spartan tuner, $560 gets it all done: http://performancetruckproducts.com/fek40-pkg-dpf-r-ford-4-0-plus-exhaust?gclid=CNTW1cuyqdACFQtYDQodS1MC1g
ross2004 wrote:SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: You don't necessarily need to tune it.You have to do some sort of tuner to delete the DPF/cat and turn the EGR off. You don't need to buy a $1,500 spartan tuner, $560 gets it all done: http://performancetruckproducts.com/fek40-pkg-dpf-r-ford-4-0-plus-exhaust?gclid=CNTW1cuyqdACFQtYDQodS1MC1g
That comment was more to the point that you don't need to put an 200+ hp tune on one. Yes you do still need a tuner to eliminate the issues that come from deleting the DPF and EGR.
bearmtnmartin wrote: I always think these threads are misleading. You get the motherlode of every problem ever experienced all lumped together in a single thread. Even when a model has a bad reliability record overall, the majority of the units go on to a long trouble free life. I have a friend with a 6.0 powerstroke. 2005 I think. 300,000 trouble free kilometers on a stock never modified or abused engine. If you spend any time on the forums you would nrver believe it would go that distance without cracked heads and the rest. Service records and history should be far more important factors than anecdotal horror stories of catastrophic failure.
Yes this is true. There were a lot of trucks that the EGR cooler didn't fail on, however it was still the most common failure of those trucks and that's why it's important to have service records and receipts for those trucks.
That was actually the reason I didn't get a 6.0L or 6.4L while looking at diesel trucks, people couldn't provide me any proof of servicing or reciepts of repairs/upgrades. Dealers wouldn't run CarFaxes for me either.
Agreed with you all about "all the problems," but the 6.4L wasn't the best for reliability. Better than the 6.0L, but way behind the 6.7 or 7.3, especially when you consider that some things (though they seem small) require removing the cab from the frame (and in your case, the box from the frame too) and then a partial tear-down of the upper end of the engine. 4-digit parts cost and 4-digit labor costs can mean big time repair costs IF you encounter one of their relatively frequent EGR cooler or oil cooler issues.
I'm just saying that you'll always hear about the terrible stuff from the people who've experienced them, and you'll hear all about how great they are from people who are used to their foibles. As a repair guy, I'm just shooting the middle and being realistic. You might never have an issue, or you may be in for $6000 repairs during your first week of ownership. Just counterpoint.
In reply to curtis73:
I can only hope to be the middle of the road guy. No issues would be great... I don't plan on any power adders.
On the 6.4, 7.3, 6.7 debate, 7.3's are getting old and too old to finance for me, and the 6.7's are still new enough they are too $. Lots of f150 (6.4) work trucks out there.
Decisons decisions.... I'd like something I can put another 100k on with basic maintenance
My brother had a 7.3 powerstroke. No doubt that was an awesome bulletproof engine. But....he put four transmissions in that truck. Get fixated on the one thing and it will be something else that bites you in the ass.
In reply to bearmtnmartin:
Good way to think about it.
java230 wrote: In reply to curtis73: I can only hope to be the middle of the road guy. No issues would be great... I don't plan on any power adders. On the 6.4, 7.3, 6.7 debate, 7.3's are getting old and too old to finance for me, and the 6.7's are still new enough they are too $. Lots of f150 (6.4) work trucks out there. Decisons decisions.... I'd like something I can put another 100k on with basic maintenance
Agreed on the 7.3L. If you find one that isn't beat all to heck (last one was 03) the seller is asking crack-smoking prices. There was just a 96 'stroke with a manual and 84k on Ebay that sold for $18,500.
I'm a huge powerstroke fan. I've owned three 7.3s. After watching my neighbor lose a 6.0 longblock under warranty when his oil cooler fed a milkshake to the oil pan, then watching my tech replace a head gasket over the course of a week on a 6.4 with the cab 8' in the air on a lift, I decided that even I didn't want to risk venturing into them. The nice thing about the 7.3L is that nearly all of the stuff that breaks is super easy to replace.
If you don't end up with this Ford, don't be afraid to look at Dmax as well. That's my other favorite. I've had two of them; one of them is putting 938 lb-ft to the wheels.
Thanks Curtis, Unfortunately, the truck is a combo of the box and truck that makes it ideal for me. I agree, the 7.3 is the best motor out there from Ford, but they are too old to finance and often crazy prices.
Some highs and lows of all Powerstroke motors from somebody who makes a living doing nothing but work on them. Pretty helpful though Bill Hewitt is borderline insane. Several of my GA friends have used him before with good success.
Friend of mine bought the first 6.4 I saw. Add 14 liters of oil, drain 20 10,000km later, so off for the dpf delete and tune. More than doubled his fuel economy. He claimed 20mpg imperial unloaded.
He's also been known to be full of E36 M3.
In reply to Streetwiseguy:
I see lots of claims of this....
The truck in question said 7.4mpg average over the last 2500miles. He was towing a 26' car trailer as well. And hit the speed limiter according to the ECU. I'm hoping for 10-12. The aero sucks.
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