Tom1200 said:The F600 race was an absolute barn burner........
Agreed, the front three put on a great show. Too bad this class, and several others can't get 20+ grids though.
Tom1200 said:The F600 race was an absolute barn burner........
Agreed, the front three put on a great show. Too bad this class, and several others can't get 20+ grids though.
Racebrick said:The hp winner is a good friend of mine, and i would have been there crewing if i had not been sick this week. Glad to see a win for him.
Is this Schaafsma the same guy who ran HP in the 90s?
In reply to DeadSkunk (Warren) :
Once upon a time F500/F600 had 25 car grids.
Most of the formula car classes are down........cuz Miatas.
Tom1200 said:The F600 race was an absolute barn burner........
Yeah, I don't know if there was a single lap without a lead change and that period where it was a 3 way gunfight for the lead.... I need to get out of the parking lots and out on the track... Really really good race.
In reply to Apexcarver :
highly recommend it, I'm having a ton of fun this year with it, even though I've been struggling with reliability (mostly due to my stupidity)
In reply to Tom1200 :
If we keep putting up races like that then we will have bigger fields. Within 2 hours of that race there were 2 posts on the F600 FB page looking for 3 cars.
L5wolvesf said:Racebrick said:The hp winner is a good friend of mine, and i would have been there crewing if i had not been sick this week. Glad to see a win for him.
Is this Schaafsma the same guy who ran HP in the 90s?
No he started in IT in the 00's
In reply to triumph7 :
I was seriously considering Jason Martin's old car but needed to finish the Rotax conversion in my 87 Novakar and so I didn't pull the trigger.
In reply to Tom1200 :
I'm just dumb enough of an engineer to think that after I campaign my KBSmk7 494 for awhile it would be fun to scratch build a motorcycle powered car for the class...
In reply to Apexcarver :
We've talked upgrading my car so it can be SCCA legal again but it's easier to just buy a newer car.
Note I want a newer F600 and after the kitchen is done next year I may buy one...............we'll see.
In the meantime I will continue autocrossing and vintage racing the Novakar. The less than well grounded me hopes that more F500s will get vintage raced. Mine is the 3rd Novakar built so I'm hoping that will give it more value at some point.
For those folks who've never driven a F600/F-mod you're missing out. As Jason Martin demonstrated you can chuck these cars into corners and sliding them around is actually fast which makes them fantastic to drive.
In reply to Tom1200 :
The motorcycle powered ones are also the best sounding cars on the track, imo. 15k redline ftw
In reply to gixxeropa :
Plus EFI, no jetting, no choke to start and flooding, no clutching adjustments...
The CVT is fun, but the bike motor looks to be pretty easygoing for setup and such.
In reply to Apexcarver :
Since the engine has to remain stock and a power commander is the about only thing you can do to the tune, there's not much to worry about as far as the engine goes, and changing sprockets for gearing is easier to wrap my head around than cvt tuning
In reply to gixxeropa :
On my car I used the CVT set up is fromthe now defunct F500 forum; it covers 95% of most courses. For the level I run at, it works fine.
If I were attempting to do the RunOffs I'd likely go with a bike engined car. Mostly becuase I am the crew chief and the driver.
James Wieda continues to prove 2-strokes can be competitve.
So far, I've watched the Sunday races and most of Saturday. I've never seen so much bad racing. Don't get me wrong, there has been some good racing, and a few good finishes, but overall, the racing skills and etiquette on the track is sub-par. Lots of 'I have 1/8th " of overlap, he should give me room' mentality on display.
Lots of drivers out there, but not many RACERS.
Jason Martin just posted his in-car video, enjoy!
In reply to triumph7 :
Awesome stuff and WOW didn't realize they clanged together that hard on the last lap.
This is why I love racing this class of car........utterly fantastic to drive.
racerfink said:So far, I've watched the Sunday races and most of Saturday. I've never seen so much bad racing. Don't get me wrong, there has been some good racing, and a few good finishes, but overall, the racing skills and etiquette on the track is sub-par. Lots of 'I have 1/8th " of overlap, he should give me room' mentality on display.
Lots of drivers out there, but not many RACERS.
Well, it is amateur racing. Most are amateurs & thats what you get.
Posted elsewhere but here's my summary:
Post runoffs notes / ramble -
Monday Dinner - tasty food trucks but kinda bummed it was extra $$. Beer was free as well as the cool SCCA 60th anniversary plastic cups - I balanced it out to my advantage (8 pints of Yuenling > food truck cost)
Weds Block party - more beer than last year but less food. Party started at 6 and all spots were out of food by 7. Beer lasted all night (9 ish).
All participants dinner - great food and more free beer.
Qualifying - I almost wish they could combine classes and shorten others. Would prefer to have a practice and qual session as part of the tuesday / weds / thursday schedule (2 sessions a day would be sweet). There were a lot of sessions with only a few cars out there.
Vendors, or lack of - whats up with that? barely any and no racing parts vendor. I had people asking me for oil, hose clamps, etc. And no Dyno? At a power track?
I was a bit bummed at my finish but overall I'm pleased. No real changes to the car aside from shocks & down on power - yet 6 seconds faster than last runoffs. Still down another 7 seconds & 10 MPH off the front cars; I'm not sure this will do any better at Road America. However I think I have a lot to learn on how to drive VIR - I know I left time on the table.
SCCA did put a data logger in my car for the race. Not sure what an Aim Solo 2 gathers by itself but now the SCCA knows.
If anyone wants to see what its like to bring a knife to a gunfight -
I zinged my engine a few times as it popped out of 2nd. I got almost to the end of the race and the rear EGT went from 1400 to 200. I also found that I could get a good launch at oak tree if I lightly hopped the inside corner - this would put the right side up in the air and I had a snap spin around lap 10.
Overall 8/10 - good times.
In reply to Kendall_Jones :
How many H-Prod cars were there? I still have my HP 850 (in pieces).
In reply to L5wolvesf :
You need to put it back together and come vintage racing with us.
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