what year/models am I looking for ? Humor me.
what year/models am I looking for ? Humor me.
B5 Passat/Audi 1.8T. 96-05
What you building?
In reply to Brotus7 :
At the moment, nothing. Looking at Plan B or even Plan C for something down the road..
I have always wanted to bolt one of these in to my 924s.
Any reason not to buy the current version?
All the VW family 4 cyl engines share the same bell housing which opens the options. The 2.0t FSI and TSI motors are direct injection, so I wouldn't mess with those.
1.8t's can be had for cheap. Real cheap. That isn't to say they don't have issues. Oil pumps/pump chains/sludge are the major mechanical issues. Coilpacks are flakey.
What are you thinking for a transmission? The Passat trans is quite similar to the Boxster 5 speed.
Brotus7 said:B5 Passat/Audi 1.8T. 96-05
What you building?
Among Audis, only the A3 and TT are transverse FWD-based platforms, so any A4 or A6 has what you're looking for, 1.8T or 2.0T. Even the FWD A4s are longitudinal.
But yes, IIRC the Passat only shared that platform for the B5.
Sorry to tag along but I'm wondering why everyone talks about the 1.8t but not the 2.0t.
In reply to Stampie :
I’m guessing it’s a cost thing. At least around me the 1.8T is much cheaper than the 2.0T. In my case I picked up 1.8T and transaxle, in a Passat shaped carrying case, for $300. Hard to find a 2.0T powered donor for that kind of money.
I understand the only major difference between the two engines is the stroke. The article I got this from states that the stroke length was only increased on the compression stroke so I’d take this info with a grain of salt.
Brotus7 said:All the VW family 4 cyl engines share the same bell housing which opens the options. The 2.0t FSI and TSI motors are direct injection, so I wouldn't mess with those.
It's 2018, you can run DI engines on aftermarket ECUs:
Wayslow said:In reply to Stampie :
I understand the only major difference between the two engines is the stroke. The article I got this info from states that the stroke length was only increased on the compression stroke so I’d take this info with a grain of salt.
That's funny.
Streetwiseguy said:Wayslow said:In reply to Stampie :
I understand the only major difference between the two engines is the stroke. The article I got this info from states that the stroke length was only increased on the compression stroke so I’d take this info with a grain of salt.
That's funny.
Yup. I thought it should be much bigger news.
Wayslow said:Streetwiseguy said:Wayslow said:In reply to Stampie :
I understand the only major difference between the two engines is the stroke. The article I got this info from states that the stroke length was only increased on the compression stroke so I’d take this info with a grain of salt.
That's funny.
Yup. I thought it should be much bigger news.
Maybe something like this?
Stampie said:Sorry to tag along but I'm wondering why everyone talks about the 1.8t but not the 2.0t.
It's garbage?
There's a lot of unrebuildableness in it. When the balance shaft bearings fail, they are serviced as an engine block, for example. Balance shafts are nonremovable because one is the jackshaft in the timing chain setup, and also drives the water pump at the back of the engine.
Basically, if it doesn't have a timing belt, run away...
In reply to Knurled. :
Ok so they're entirely different engines then.
The scuttlebutt from the VW world is the 1.8t was de-tuned so that it wouldn't outshine the more expensive 2.8L VR6 that was sold at the same time. With some fairly easy upgrades, significant power increases are possible. Heck, just a re-flash alone can put a stock engine comfortably in the 200+ HP range. Add injectors and an uprated turbo and inter-cooler and near 300 isn't hard.
A big issue with these engines is they are not tolerant of cheap oil and tend to need more frequent changes than originally spec'd. Unfortunately, as they've aged into cheap used cars, many owners whine about $50 DIY oil changes and put in cheap dino oil that will fry the turbo. While I'd love to get a GTI has a track beater, I would expect to fix a few things after purchase due to PO neglect.
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