Has anyone ever seen a swap that took a VR6 and mounted it longitudinally?
This is purely rhetorical at this point. I don't own a VR6, nor do I have the mad skillz required for that kind of swap, I'm just curious if it's been done, what sort of tranny was used if that was the case, etc.
Seems like it'd make a cool motor for a Miata, assuming that they don't weigh eleventy-billion pounds.
ive seen one mounted in a suzuki sidekick, i dont know much about the swap though
I have seen a picture of one in a 944.
Why not use an Audi V6 that is already mounted that way? Or do you need the narrow V?
They aren't light, that's for sure.
If you're wanting a V6 Miata, i'd be looking at a KL or a JE.
The VR6 comes longitudinally mounted in the Touareg. Using the Touareg manifolds, Megasquirt and the adapters people are using to put the TDIs and 1.8Ts up to W58s would be awesome.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: They aren't light, that's for sure. If you're wanting a V6 Miata, i'd be looking at a KL or a JE.
KL isnt that light either, right?
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joey48442 wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: They aren't light, that's for sure. If you're wanting a V6 Miata, i'd be looking at a KL or a JE.KL isnt that light either, right? Joey
VR6 is cast bottom end, KL is all aluminum.
Touareg/Cayanne/Q7 but the newer versions.
Theres some folks getting bellhousings made for T5/6/Real American transmissions but it'll be a few months.
Forever ago on 0-60's website they linked a YouTube video with some sortof small Bombardier tracked vehicle with a VR6 transplant. I wanna say they used some sortof VW transaxle, but the shift pattern was completely backwards.
Only reason I would swap a VR6 into anything is that ungodly awesome sound.
In reply to ReverendDexter:
I have seen this 12v swap in a b5 A4. Obviously the Audi Quattro is a big plus as well.
Here is a build thread that started off as a 1.8t and is now being converted to a 12v. It's only a 51 page thread at this point. Enjoy: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/284024-The-luxury-of-AWD/page51
034efi motorsports aka Motorgeek.com has adaptors to put them in Audi 80/90/ & A4's.
There were a couple of RWD conversions done to VW Corrados back in the 00s.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3316888-RWD-VRT-corrado
http://forums.motivemag.com/showthread.php?4291629
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Here is a cuple links to pics of my miata with vr6 turbo be built http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd70/VR6MIATA/f9b978bc.jpg http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd70/VR6MIATA/0d343f68.jpg
vr6miata wrote: Here is a cuple links to pics of my miata with vr6 turbo be built http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd70/VR6MIATA/f9b978bc.jpg http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd70/VR6MIATA/0d343f68.jpg
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jungle wrote: 034efi motorsports aka Motorgeek.com has adaptors to put them in Audi 80/90/ & A4's.
Here is the bellhousing adapter for the Quattro trans. longi bellhousing adapter. Not sure if it will mount to the normal FWD trans. Also here is the flywheel to make up the space difference for the adapter. longi flywheel. I had dirty thoughts of putting a longi VR6 midship in a Fox wagon at one point.
ReverendDexter wrote: Has anyone ever seen a swap that took a VR6 and mounted it longitudinally?
034 Motorsport sells a VR6-to-Audi transaxle adapter setup.
VWAG also used the VR6 longitudinally in cars like the Phaeton.
It's also the base engine in the Tuareg, Cayenne, and probably the Audi variants of that chassis.
Seems like it'd make a cool motor for a Miata, assuming that they don't weigh eleventy-billion pounds.
It would not make a cool motor for anything, if only because it breaks several fundamental rules of engine design. It's also a fanboy engine, with all of the problems that come with that.
Knurled wrote: It would not make a cool motor for anything, if only because it breaks several fundamental rules of engine design. It's also a fanboy engine, with all of the problems that come with that.
Exactly! I will stick with my undesirable 8v engines. 
John Brown wrote: The VR6 comes longitudinally mounted in the Touareg. Using the Touareg manifolds, Megasquirt and the adapters people are using to put the TDIs and 1.8Ts up to W58s would be awesome.
VR6 does not share a bolt pattern with anything else.
There are three (at least) flavors of VWAG bolt pattern, there's four-cylinder, there's 5/6/8 cylinder, and then there's VR6. Longitudinal transmissions made after about 1990 (specifically, the 01A, 01E, and newer) have the 4 and 5/6/8 pattern. But VR6 is... different.
That's why you spend $1k for an adapter plate. Or you import whatever was used in Europe to put the VR6 in the Phaeton, or the VR5 in the Passat. I don't know if it was an adapter or a VR-specific bellhousing.
Now I'm wondering what pattern the W8 and W12 used.
Why not just put the entire FWD assembly in the back and be done with it? More work, but more coolness.
Dynoed at 320whp on the realy safe side due to going to be a street car and don't want to have to rebuild it Every couple months. The motor in it is just a junk yard motor with head spacer and unknown miles. Friend of mine machined all the adapters to use rx7 trans and aftermarket rx7 flywheel he says hardest one yet, he justed finished one infinity v8 to rx7 trans for his 1st gen rx7
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:joey48442 wrote:VR6 is cast bottom end, KL is all aluminum.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: They aren't light, that's for sure. If you're wanting a V6 Miata, i'd be looking at a KL or a JE.KL isnt that light either, right? Joey
From what I've read, it's more work than an LS1.
z31maniac wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:From what I've read, it's more work than an LS1.joey48442 wrote:VR6 is cast bottom end, KL is all aluminum.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: They aren't light, that's for sure. If you're wanting a V6 Miata, i'd be looking at a KL or a JE.KL isnt that light either, right? Joey
More work, less power, less reliable. Since my short time of being here I have learned LSx swaps solve all problems. 
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