David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/28/15 8:55 a.m.

Lawson Aschenbach and Boris Said are entered in this weekend's Xfinitiy race: http://www.nascar.com/en_us/xfinity-series/standings/results/2015/road-america-180-fired-up-by-johnsonville.raceResults.entryList.html

He's not listed on the entry list, but sounds like Andy Lally will be driving the 90 car.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/28/15 9:27 p.m.

Update after practice sessions:

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/xfinity-series/standings/results/2015/road-america-180-fired-up-by-johnsonville.raceResults.practice2.html

Boris is looking good.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
8/29/15 2:39 a.m.

those "road course ringers" always do good in the NASCAR races right up until they forget that everyone else on the track thinks that bumpers are made to be used and they fall victim to being too gentlemanly... or sometimes, they remember that they are in cars with bumpers and get a little "enthusiastic" with the use of the bumper and take themselves out of contention..

or sometimes they think they have the race won and overdrive the car into the second to last corner on the last lap and get gently pushed aside by a well placed bumper and wind up in second place to a series regular, then start whining about how "unsportsmanlike" it was to have the race stolen from them like that..

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
8/29/15 7:23 a.m.

In reply to novaderrik:

You failed to note that series regulars are often immune from penalty, more so when they deliberately punt ringers out of the way with moves that would send them to "the trailer" if they had done it to one of the boys.

failboat
failboat UltraDork
8/29/15 3:54 p.m.

The bump and run technique just seems to be totally accepted and not frowned upon at all.

Forgive me for not knowing all the players, but the winner on the last road course race a week or two ago won because he pushed the leader wide on the last corner and passed him on the inside. If you ask me it was total bullE36 M3 but all the commentators were like "That's racin!"

Also Kenny Habul has the coolest racing livery ever.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
8/29/15 10:57 p.m.
failboat wrote: The bump and run technique just seems to be totally accepted and not frowned upon at all. Forgive me for not knowing all the players, but the winner on the last road course race a week or two ago won because he pushed the leader wide on the last corner and passed him on the inside. If you ask me it was total bullE36 M3 but all the commentators were like "That's racin!" Also Kenny Habul has the coolest racing livery ever.

the leader (Tagliani) went into the corner a little hot- he was already running wide and trying to get it back, probably from watching his mirror instead of hitting his marks- and Regan Smith came up on him fast.. a little nudge on the bumper was enough to move Tagliani of the way without actually wrecking him... that's how NASCAR works- rubbin' is racin'.. that's the thing that the ringers always forget: NASCAR is not now and has never been a "gentleman's sport"- they race to win and the cars are expendable. bumping and grinding and fighting for the win is a part of the game. the ringers always either forget about that and wonder why they got dumped for holding someone up or remember it and don't know how to properly hit someone just right to move them without taking themselves out..

either way, i love the NASCAR road course races because the ringers come in to show those NASCAR boys how it's done and generally wind up with a broken car and/or a bad attitude.. and it's not like the NASCAR guys don't know what they are doing any more: a lot of them take part in 24 hour endurance races in the off season to get better at the road courses, and Boris Said has made a pretty good living out of giving them lessons for the last couple of decades..

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
8/30/15 3:30 a.m.

Tagliani over-drove the corner, and got bumped when he tried to pull back down to the apex with a faster car closing in. It was the next to last corner on the last lap. As much as I would have liked for Tagliani to win over Smith, I can't fault Smith. Was he supposed to politely let Tag back on the racing line after his mistake?

T.J.
T.J. UltimaDork
8/30/15 6:12 a.m.

Want a gap, make a gap.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
8/30/15 11:52 a.m.

Boris did fair. Lally not so much.

The thing that griped me was the overly long caution late in the race. It as almost as if they were catering to Menard, who was low on fuel. More time and Blaney might have got him.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
8/30/15 2:18 p.m.
iceracer wrote: Boris did fair. Lally not so much. The thing that griped me was the overly long caution late in the race. It as almost as if they were catering to Menard, who was low on fuel. More time and Blaney might have got him.

it's a 4 mile track that takes a LOOOOONNNNGGG time to go around at pace car speed.. combine that with people having problems getting their cars restarted after shutting them off to save fuel- those ignition boxes need more than what the alternator alone can provide to get fired up- and 4 pace laps take up what seems like an eternity... i think a couple of them ran out of gas, too, which is a problem when you have a 100 foot high hill to climb just to get to pit road..

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
8/30/15 2:38 p.m.

Having run out of gas there on the cool-down lap, it is indeed a long way around. I almost made it through T13, but the incline there was too much.

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