In reply to NOHOME :
There's a reason nyc cabs are mostly Toyota hybrids.
In reply to NOHOME :
There's a reason nyc cabs are mostly Toyota hybrids.
singleslammer said:Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to NOHOME :
I have not seen a hybrid that wasn't an anvil.
This is true for Toyotas, for sure. Not so much for some of the Domestics. The Ford products have had a number of issues.
Any links on the Ford hybrid issues? As an owner, I'd be curious to read up on them. My understanding is that the Ford hybrids (with transverse engines) use a hybrid system that's nearly identical to Toyota's and have similar reliability. When I google for issues, I mostly get results about "creaking bodies", or other things that aren't unique to the hybrid systems in place.
NOHOME said:John Welsh said:...but at an average of only 7k miles per year for her, it will be hard to get the payback on the $3k hybrid upcharge.
Having owned many Prius, I like the mpg but my favorite feature is the reliability. But, if you're only keeping these cars to 70k, then most any modern car will be reliable in that time frame.
Hyundai/Kia has a 10yr/100k warranty that might be great for you.
I have two sources that tell me to stay away from the Korean cars. One drives a tow truck and the other works in an automotive machine shop. The word is that they have catastrophic engine problems more often than other cars.
There are quite a few here that would disagree. We've owned a few of these "going to explode" engines and none have yet. Even putting it on track hasn't done it. For two years.
grover said:In reply to NOHOME :
There's a reason nyc cabs are mostly Toyota hybrids.
Same story in Chicago. My understanding is the cab companies buy them used with ~150,000 miles and drive them into the ground around 350-400,000+ miles.
Deal is done.
Both of us hated the hatch the moment we sat in the front seats. Rear seats were cramped and it felt like being in a cave.
The sedan felt like an altogether different car. Now we wait. And wait.
Pete
In reply to NOHOME :
Did you land on a regular sedan?
I know the feeling. We bought a Sienna last year and were lucky it only took 4 months.
In reply to STM317 :
I should have specified. The one in particular that had a ton of issues was the C-max. I have considered a few over the years but there are way too many transmission issues for me to take that risk. I have also read that the Fusion versions didn't seem to fail as much.
This isn't exactly Consumer Reports though
https://thedriveradviser.com/11-common-problems-of-a-ford-c-max-hybrid-energi/
In reply to singleslammer :
Yep. As much as we did not like the hatch, the sedan was a different beast. More cargo room and more backseat room. Go figure. That said, the A-pillar is a blind spot; but not much different than the Versa.
The tech update is a bit startling. In car entertainment and such things as lane departure and adaptive cruise seem weird. The heat and steering wheel heaters were on during the test drive and I did not like them; either BBQing me or off. Momma like them so all good.
Interestingly the issue of "subscribing" to remote start came up. Seems that the subscription only applies to using your phone to start the car. If you are good with going through the extraordinary effort of pushing the key fob button, then you are good to go. I hate the cell phone generation.
Big step up from the Versa and it served her well for 10 years.
In reply to NOHOME :
My Volvo came with an aftermarket remote start by cell function if I was willing to pay the monthly subscription.
Remote start with keyfob works great if you are within keyfob range. Not so good if you are in your office and the car is in the parking garage a hundred yards away. Makes sense to me, although not an issue I have, so I didn't bother getting the subscription.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
OK, that kinda puts it in context. She was always able to start the car from the top story of where she worked with the aftermarket remote, so now that she is retired, we are looking at 30' for the most part.
I was less annoyed with the subscription thing when I found out it was for a phone app and not something that you "bought" as part of the car.
Here's the problem with remote start app vs key fob.
app: open app, put in passcode, hit lock doors (won't work unless doors are locked) watch it say finding vehicle.... sending request.... receiving request..... doors locked. Hit start car, put in passcode again, finding vehicle.... sending request.... receiving request..... engine started.
3 easy minutes
fob: hit lock button 3 times, car starts 15 seconds
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