Mazda 2 vs Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost

Ok I of these is going to be my future dd/fun car. I am trying to decide which one I want to go with.

Technically they are siblings platform wise, but they are different.

The 2 I can get new for ~$13k while the Fiesta will be in the ~$16.5k range.

The 2 has 100hp/98tq while the Fiesta has 120hp/125tq but bumps up to 148 ish tq with the overboost.

The 2 weighs 2250lbs while the ecoboost fiesta weighs 2450lbs.

The fiesta wins on amenities but the 2 is cheaper.

The fiesta has a higher performance potential imo(pumaspeed has one that is making close to stock FiST numbers on the factory turbo but still only runs a 15.4 in the 1/4)

Both have 5 MT's but the fiestas is geared more toward economy rather than sportiness.

I might try to start auto-xing and both cars are in the same scca class.

Drive them both in the trim you want before you start making judgments based on paper.

Can you rent each one for a weekend to compare them fully? I bet you can't rent a stick.

sergio wrote: Can you rent each one for a weekend to compare them fully? I bet you can't rent a stick.

After a credit check, one could probably have an "extended test drive" with each one.

N Sperlo wrote:

sergio wrote: Can you rent each one for a weekend to compare them fully? I bet you can't rent a stick.

After a credit check, one could probably have an "extended test drive" with each one.

Be sure to check the AutoX schedule first

If playing with the motor sounds in any way fun, the 2 is likely to be a disappointment. Parts are few and far between. Mucking about with the 1.0 is likely to be a more rewarding experience.

Isn't a turbo going to bump it up a class or two in AutoX, will it be competitive?

I would pick Ecoboost. Turbos are fun

In reply to bentwrench:

Both are in H-stock iirc

I would say the Fiesta, as i find the interior layout more useful. I did like the Chasis feel on teh two better, though.

Or you could but the 1.6 na with 120 hp and save $900.

Having owned a 2 for a couple of years, I can say that it is a great little tossable vehicle. However, the interior sucks, I didn't like the seats too much, and it made 25 hp too little. If I was doing it again, I would probably have looked at the Fiesta (especially the turbo models) much harder and thought less about price.

iceracer wrote: Or you could but the 1.6 na with 120 hp and save $900.

The problem there is the torque and the delivery. I would say that is 900 well spent

singleslammer wrote:

iceracer wrote: Or you could but the 1.6 na with 120 hp and save $900.

The problem there is the torque and the delivery. I would say that is 900 well spent

Yeah, the extra 50 lb/ft of tq at 3000 rpm and 35 lb/ft everywhere else is well worth $900, IMO

Stock 2 dyno:

Stock ecoboost dyno:

In reply to MrChaos:

I'd shell out the extra 4k for a fiesta ST.....

as a former Mazda2 owner I want to say I would love to have that extra 35hp/50tq where it counted. especially merging onto the highway, it had no power and became a safety issue at times.

If it isn't an immediate need wait for the new 2 to see how they compare. The Fiesta as it stands today seems like it could be more fun.

I read a little about the new 2 yesterday. The speculation puts it in a similar power range as the current model with a bit better economy.

I suspect tracking down a 1.0L fiesta with a stick shift is going to be a bit of a chore

calteg wrote: I suspect tracking down a 1.0L fiesta with a stick shift is going to be a bit of a chore

Its only offered with the stick-shift. I doubt its that hard.

As a bonus, its also only available in a near-stripped configuration. Most options are not available with the 1.0

ProDarwin wrote:

calteg wrote: I suspect tracking down a 1.0L fiesta with a stick shift is going to be a bit of a chore

Its only offered with the stick-shift. I doubt its that hard. As a bonus, its also only available in a near-stripped configuration. Most options are not available with the 1.0

no, not a lot of options, but you can get heated seats!

I am leaning more towards the fiesta. Plus some of the UK tuners, pumaspeed and superchips, have 1.0s making 150hp+ on a tune with the stock turbo.

Seems every dyno test has the 1.0 EB putting out quite a bit more than the factory rating of 123 hp.

iceracer wrote: Seems every dyno test has the 1.0 EB putting out quite a bit more than the factory rating of 123 hp.

I keep seeing this referenced everywhere too. My question is: If this thing is making damn near 150whp in a 2500lb car, why is it still slow? Shouldn't this be a high-14 second car at that point?

fidelity101 wrote: as a former Mazda2 owner I want to say I would love to have that extra 35hp/50tq where it counted. especially merging onto the highway, it had no power and became a safety issue at times.

BullE36 M3. If I can merge onto a highway at 75mph with a god damn 3 cylinder, 1.0L 65hp (in 1989 mind you) Sprint that weighs 1600 pounds, you certainly can do it safely in a 2400lb car with 100hp/100tq built in 2012.

Maybe you are one of those people that think revving a motor high is 4000rpm...