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MrChaos
MrChaos New Reader
4/16/14 6:09 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin:

tall gearing for fuel savings. It would prob run in the high 14's with the 6 speed from the FiST.

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke Dork
4/17/14 8:19 a.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
fidelity101 wrote: as a former Mazda2 owner I want to say I would love to have that extra 35hp/50tq where it counted. especially merging onto the highway, it had no power and became a safety issue at times.
BullE36 M3. If I can merge onto a highway at 75mph with a god damn 3 cylinder, 1.0L 65hp (in 1989 mind you) Sprint that weighs 1600 pounds, you certainly can do it safely in a 2400lb car with 100hp/100tq built in 2012. Maybe you are one of those people that think revving a motor high is 4000rpm...

He's used to driving rotaries so I hope not. I've always driven underpowered cars so I'm used to winding them out in order to merge on the highway.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
4/17/14 9:17 a.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
iceracer wrote: Seems every dyno test has the 1.0 EB putting out quite a bit more than the factory rating of 123 hp.
I keep seeing this referenced everywhere too. My question is: If this thing is making damn near 150whp in a 2500lb car, why is it still slow? Shouldn't this be a high-14 second car at that point?

I think they run in the high 15's.

Considering the weight, almost 2600, that is about right.

Ranger50
Ranger50 PowerDork
4/17/14 9:19 a.m.

Where are you finding this mythical Fiesta 1.0L beast?

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
4/17/14 4:13 p.m.
My question is: If this thing is making damn near 150whp in a 2500lb car, why is it still slow? Shouldn't this be a high-14 second car at that point?

Exactly. I havent seen anything to back up that ~146whp dyno.

think they run in the high 15's. Considering the weight, almost 2600, that is about right

Considering 2500lb sohc neons with 132 CRANK hp can run high 15s, i'm still pretty skeptical. I think they are underrated by a decent bit, but i DONT think they make ~150whp in any kind of consistent fashion. I agree with others who think they should be a low 15 car pretty easily at that point and there's not a single magazine article anywhere suggesting that a stock one is even remotely quick, and i havent seen anyone posting any timeslips in any of these fiesta threads either.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
4/17/14 5:28 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote: Where are you finding this mythical Fiesta 1.0L beast?

Ford dealers

Ranger50
Ranger50 PowerDork
4/17/14 5:57 p.m.
iceracer wrote:
Ranger50 wrote: Where are you finding this mythical Fiesta 1.0L beast?
Ford dealers

Not at any of the ones I shop at currently..... Nothing but the S to ST models, no xfe's.

MrChaos
MrChaos New Reader
4/17/14 6:31 p.m.

I might have to go with the mazda 2 since the price I just got a quote on I can get a Mazda 2 + insurance for $20 less a month than just the monthly payment on a Fiesta.

MrChaos
MrChaos New Reader
4/21/14 5:05 p.m.

Test drove a 2 on saturday. It was an autotragic touring since that is all the dealership has on the lot. It was still fairly peppy with the auto. The salesman claims he can match any mazda dealers price, we will see about that since a dealer in Kentucky has a few 14 sport manuals for $12.9k. Truecar says I can get one for $13.2k(in white since that is extra) so I am hoping to get $11.5k out the door with my trade in.

gamby
gamby UltimaDork
4/21/14 6:50 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
fidelity101 wrote: as a former Mazda2 owner I want to say I would love to have that extra 35hp/50tq where it counted. especially merging onto the highway, it had no power and became a safety issue at times.
BullE36 M3. If I can merge onto a highway at 75mph with a god damn 3 cylinder, 1.0L 65hp (in 1989 mind you) Sprint that weighs 1600 pounds, you certainly can do it safely in a 2400lb car with 100hp/100tq built in 2012. Maybe you are one of those people that think revving a motor high is 4000rpm...

Yeah, my sad little 2000 Civic DX beater has a rousing 107hp and I've NEVER had an issue merging onto a freeway. It does just fine.

That 1.0L Ecoboost sounds like a rad little engine.

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