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Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
9/23/16 12:00 p.m.

I was doing a bit of Craigslist surfing and was surprised to see a running and driving Mazdaspeed3 listed for $5k. It had a rebuilt title, and a turbo problem, though.

I was surprised that these are getting down into that price range. It's put a wrinkle in my brain for a fun toy car that I may have trouble ironing out.

(edit) I apparently concatenated two ads in my mind, sorry. It makes a bit more sense now.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
9/23/16 12:10 p.m.

I have noticed the same thing. I'm very interested in one of these.

Although in NC, I've also noticed the # of Rebuilt, Salvage, or Missing titles on Craigslist seems to be ridiculously high

Tactical Penguin
Tactical Penguin Dork
9/23/16 12:25 p.m.

Dammit...:searches craigslist:

jstein77
jstein77 UltraDork
9/23/16 12:31 p.m.

Great car as long as you don't mind a ton of torque steer. (Says the smug jerk with AWD and zero torque steer )

ssswitch
ssswitch Dork
9/23/16 12:59 p.m.

I think a lot of them had turbo failures. Now they are probably into the range where depreciation has gotten so bad that the near-skint sixth owners don't find it worth replacing the turbo.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
9/23/16 1:11 p.m.

One thing that turned me off of old DISI cars is that there isn't any available replacement for injectors. They aren't Bosch.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
9/23/16 2:18 p.m.
jstein77 wrote: Great car as long as you don't mind a ton of torque steer. (Says the smug jerk with AWD and zero torque steer )

And a much more expensive car. No hate; if I could afford an RS, I might get one. But a $5k asking price for a Speed3, even if it needs a bit of work, seems like a lot of potential car for the money.

Mister Fister
Mister Fister New Reader
9/23/16 2:21 p.m.

Great cars if you like minivan driving dynamics.

Tyler H
Tyler H UltraDork
9/23/16 2:50 p.m.
Mister Fister wrote: Great cars if you like minivan driving dynamics.

I consider that a testament to minivans, not a slight on the MS3.

johndej
johndej Reader
9/23/16 2:54 p.m.

I saw one the past week down around $3600, had 260k on it.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
9/23/16 3:11 p.m.
Mister Fister wrote: Great cars if you like minivan driving dynamics.

Are they worse than any other econoboxes? I haven't driven an Mazda 3 in >5 years, but I don't recall it being terrible for what it is.

Jumper K. Balls
Jumper K. Balls UberDork
9/23/16 3:19 p.m.

I watched a speed3 lay down just under 400HP at a dyno day. It looked totally stock and was extremely quiet during the run. As it idled with the AC on as they were leaving, I couldn't help think what a great freeway car it might have been.

How is the ride and the seats in these? Comfy enough for 4 hour jaunts?

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/23/16 3:32 p.m.

Mine is only worth about that. But it's been for a bit of a swim, and needs a turbo. Shame really. I paid 24k for that car.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/23/16 3:34 p.m.
Jumper K. Balls wrote: I watched a speed3 lay down just under 400HP at a dyno day. It looked totally stock and was extremely quiet during the run. As it idled with the AC on as they were leaving, I couldn't help think what a great freeway car it might have been. How is the ride and the seats in these? Comfy enough for 4 hour jaunts?

Super comfy, depending on the suspension. Some of the best seats ive ever owned. The let fit can be a bit awkward as the console is sorta wide, so if youre more of a lard ass like me (6' 270ish, 38" waist) and you have thick legs, it can bandy your knee about a bit. I've done far longer in far worse, and I wouldn't hesitate to drive a running one 16+ hours.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/23/16 3:36 p.m.
Knurled wrote: One thing that turned me off of old DISI cars is that there isn't any available replacement for injectors. They aren't Bosch.

AFAIK no one has hit 100% duty cycle on the injectors yet. No joke factory injectors making 700whp. The fueling, save the hpfp was a monster.

Devilsolsi
Devilsolsi Reader
9/23/16 3:48 p.m.

I owned 2 and loved them both (2008 & 2011). Never had any real issues with either, but both were new or nearly new whenI bought them and sold with 50K or so on them.

I wish they made a Mazdaspeed version of the new 3..

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
9/23/16 5:01 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
Knurled wrote: One thing that turned me off of old DISI cars is that there isn't any available replacement for injectors. They aren't Bosch.
AFAIK no one has hit 100% duty cycle on the injectors yet. No joke factory injectors making 700whp. The fueling, save the hpfp was a monster.

So, if you break one, or one gets clogged or otherwise needs replacement... what do you do?

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/23/16 5:14 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
mndsm wrote:
Knurled wrote: One thing that turned me off of old DISI cars is that there isn't any available replacement for injectors. They aren't Bosch.
AFAIK no one has hit 100% duty cycle on the injectors yet. No joke factory injectors making 700whp. The fueling, save the hpfp was a monster.
So, if you break one, or one gets clogged or otherwise needs replacement... what do you do?

Scavenge one of the 8 bazillion mazdaspeed 3s or 6s that have been balled up, or grab one out of a dead cx7. Once they're nla....I have no idea.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
9/23/16 5:51 p.m.

AFAIK they are already NLA.

Which sucks mightily.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/23/16 6:06 p.m.

Time to start hoarding injectors.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer UltraDork
9/23/16 6:08 p.m.

I've seen Mazdaspeed6s well down in that price range as well if you want AWD.

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
9/23/16 6:17 p.m.

Hmm sure beats a Pontiac Vibe GT. I found a couple locally for $4k. Tempting.

cmcgregor
cmcgregor HalfDork
9/23/16 6:30 p.m.

In reply to Knurled:

MazdaMotorsports shows them as available, $90 each. Which seems like a deal, really.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
9/23/16 8:28 p.m.

What kind of BS is making fuel injectors NLA?

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/23/16 8:32 p.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote: What kind of BS is making fuel injectors NLA?

Good question.

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