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logdog
logdog HalfDork
4/24/13 12:14 p.m.

You can also get it as a little truck. Everybody says they want a minitruck!

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltraDork
4/24/13 12:18 p.m.
logdog wrote: You can also get it as a little truck. Everybody says they want a minitruck!

Seriously, how do you register those? As a bike?

logdog
logdog HalfDork
4/24/13 12:25 p.m.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson:

Im sure a call to EZ Pay Auto would tell us alot!

Cotton
Cotton SuperDork
4/24/13 12:28 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
Cotton wrote:
ProDarwin wrote:
poopshovel wrote: Seriously though. Just buy an HX or VX Civic. Or a Festiva. Or whatever. Lease a Smart Car for $100 a month if you're that into S&M.
I don't get your argument. HX/VX Civics are 45-50mpg cars... on the highway. This thing is rated at 84 on the highway. Entirely different league. And you are comparing a 20 year old car with likely 120k+ miles on it to something brand new? Apples to Oranges. The Insight would almost be a fair comparison... if it were new.
They are claiming 84....there is no epa rating for it. I can claim my k1200s gets 84 too, but I'd be full of E36 M3. If my nx125 got 70mpg downhill brand new with next to no power I'll be very surprised if this thing hits 84.
Err maybe not. Aero efficiency is one of the biggest factors in fuel economy. A bike isn't very efficient, this could be.

could be....if it ever gets to a point where someone can test it I guess we'll find out.

EZ pay in the posted ad is claiming 75mpg....how do you feel about that claim?

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/24/13 12:32 p.m.
DrBoost wrote:
ProDarwin wrote:
poopshovel wrote: Seriously though. Just buy an HX or VX Civic. Or a Festiva. Or whatever. Lease a Smart Car for $100 a month if you're that into S&M.
I don't get your argument. HX/VX Civics are 45-50mpg cars... on the highway. This thing is rated at 84 on the highway. Entirely different league. And you are comparing a 20 year old car with likely 120k+ miles on it to something brand new? Apples to Oranges. The Insight would almost be a fair comparison... if it were new.
Stop using logic to argue a point. Don't you know you're just supposed to blindly push your opinion and tell everyone else that theirs is dumb? Cuz yeah, a Goldwing or a 20 year old car is the same thing.

No offense man, but you're considering buying a car that doesn't exist with an imaginary motor...(unless it's a Daihatsu...smart call there,) that gets an imaginary 80mpg, and I'm "blindly" pushing an opinion?

If Honda or Ford or Chevy or anyone else made a 1-seater death-machine, I suppose I could make an apples to apples comparison.

Just stating my opinion, man, and attempting to do it in a hilarious manner. I never said you were dumb. I'd drive a used 40-50mpg 4 seater hatch back whatever before I'd even consider three-wheel one seat, cobbled together pipe dream. Have you looked at the panel fitment on that their prototype on the website?

And as much E36 M3 as everyone is talking here, I don't see anybody plunking down $8k on a new "Snyder." Prove me wrong!

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltraDork
4/24/13 12:34 p.m.
logdog wrote: In reply to Adrian_Thompson: Im sure a call to EZ Pay Auto would tell us alot!

Calling an E-Zpay car lot.ugh, I'd rather call a pay for porn line! Googlelymoogly shows the Snyder on various sites listed as a bike, moped or scooter.

logdog
logdog HalfDork
4/24/13 12:37 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: I'd rather call a pay for porn line!

Who wouldnt?

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
4/24/13 12:41 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: No offense man, but you're considering buying a car that doesn't exist with an imaginary motor...(unless it's a Daihatsu...smart call there,) that gets an imaginary 80mpg, and I'm "blindly" pushing an opinion?

Don't worry man, I'm not offended. I didn't mean to come off like I was. And yeah, I'm considering buying a car that doesn't exist, just like lots of people here say they'd buy a mini diesel truck, or a factory turbo miata, or any number of other pipe-dream cars we wish manufacturers would make. I'd love to see a $7,000 car, built in the U.S. that get's over 80 mpg. If they built it, I will be there to check it out. If it's not a horrid turd I'd buy one.

poopshovel wrote: If Honda or Ford or Chevy or anyone else made a 1-seater death-machine, I suppose I could make an apples to apples comparison. Just stating my opinion, man, and attempting to do it in a hilarious manner. I never said you were dumb. I'd drive a used 40-50mpg 4 seater hatch back whatever before I'd even consider three-wheel one seat, cobbled together pipe dream. Have you looked at the panel fitment on that their prototype on the website? And as much E36 M3 as everyone is talking here, I don't see anybody plunking down $8k on a new "Snyder." Prove me wrong!

The Elio is a two-seater BTW. I've never liked a Honda. Boring. This car, I think, would be a blast to drive. The central driving position, the tandem seating, the unique look; those push my buttons. The panel fit, from what I see in the photo's is no worse than what I've seen from Ford and Chrysler, having worked on lots or pre-production vehicles from both companies.
I've never heard of "Snyder". Googling now.....

Just googled it. Not interested. A three-wheeler with one wheel in the front is a death machine, in my opinion. And the Snyder doesn't look good to me. Part of the draw to the Elio is the expertise behind that product, the whole built in America thing, and the styling that I think is kinda cool.

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
4/24/13 12:42 p.m.
logdog wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote: I'd rather call a pay for porn line!
Who wouldnt?

Not from work again. You've been told...

dculberson
dculberson SuperDork
4/24/13 1:35 p.m.
alfadriver wrote: Gas is almost $10/gal in Europe. Is the Smart that popular? I don't see people flocking to it regardless of gas prices. I see more 4cyl C/D and smaller engine C and B cars vs. any micro B cars.

Well, the 2nd gen Smart sold 500,000 cars in 4 years. I haven't done the math, but I think that's a few more than 7,000 a year.

You're right that 1500 employees is a lot. But have you read many business projections before? They always over-estimate growth, but they don't go ahead and hire all those employees. They hire enough to get the business going and as things progress they hire more people. You seem to think that it's a "hire 1500 people today or the business is a fake" sort of situation. That is not the case.

Chances are this business will fold, most do. Especially most new auto makers fold. But claiming they're running some sort of scam based on an optimistic projection of their number of employees seems hasty.

The world has plenty of $100k v8 sedans, and starting at that level guarantees you would never make a $7000 3 wheeled contraption. I think it's cool that they're trying.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/24/13 3:54 p.m.

Here's me, being all positive: If they build it in the U.S., with no taxpayer subsidies, then good for them. Good for us. There it is. You get one a year.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/24/13 7:04 p.m.
The Elio is a two-seater BTW. I've never liked a Honda. Boring. This car, I think, would be a blast to drive. The central driving position, the tandem seating, the unique look; those push my buttons. The panel fit, from what I see in the photo's is no worse than what I've seen from Ford and Chrysler, having worked on lots or pre-production vehicles from both companies. I've never heard of "Snyder". Googling now.....

Ford has been in business for almost 110 years. This may or may not be some guy who's slapped a bunch of fiberglass panels on some aborted daihatsu charade project. No pics of the motor? No details on the manufacturer till may? Why???

Have you done a quick google search for "Paul Elio?"

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
4/24/13 9:18 p.m.
poopshovel wrote:
The Elio is a two-seater BTW. I've never liked a Honda. Boring. This car, I think, would be a blast to drive. The central driving position, the tandem seating, the unique look; those push my buttons. The panel fit, from what I see in the photo's is no worse than what I've seen from Ford and Chrysler, having worked on lots or pre-production vehicles from both companies. I've never heard of "Snyder". Googling now.....
Ford has been in business for almost 110 years. This may or may not be some guy who's slapped a bunch of fiberglass panels on some aborted daihatsu charade project. No pics of the motor? No details on the manufacturer till may? Why??? Have you done a quick google search for "Paul Elio?"

Don't buy one. I'm not saying it's the second coming or anything, sheesh. I'm saying it's a good idea and if they produce it, I'd be interested. You'd rather have a riced-out 20 year old car or an old mans motorcycle. Diff'rent strokes...
And I haven't done research on Mr. Elio, don't really care at this point.

Klayfish
Klayfish Dork
5/13/13 11:27 a.m.

This potential car really had my interest, so I wanted to follow the progress. Sounds like they're taking a test mule on a tour for the public to see, but not surprisingly still need a ton of start up money. I'm definitely not ready to plunk down any cash, even $100 for the cheapest buy in, but will continue to see what develops. Some of the articles I've read make it sound like it's almost a certainty that the local government will fund them.

http://jalopnik.com/elio-motors-unveils-car-in-michigan-while-asking-for-ca-496728892

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