MotorTrend+ is Shutting Down

If you don't want to pay for YouTube Premium, you can also get a VPN from a few different countries where YouTube doesn't advertise.  I think Albania might be one.  But there are a handful.  This way you won't see ads.  But it might be slower.  

NOHOME said:

 

I like that Finnegan and De Angelo have shown up on YouTube.

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When David Newburn left Finnegan's channel, his production quality dropped.  It is getting better, but yeah, I have been skipping his show unless it looks like a really interesting topic, just due to how long they are getting.  It seems like a lot of the YouTubers I watch are making their videos longer, so I wonder if the payout algorithm is pushing it.

One good thing about moving Motortrend+ shows to Discovery+ is their app runs better on my low end Fire stick.  The MT app tended to stutter and drop frames.  I did look through and see if there was anything on the app I'm interested in, and nope, just the Motortrend shows.

93gsxturbo said:

Killing Dirt Every Day was real sad for me.  Fred and Dave were as good as Freiburger and Finnegan with their antics and chemistry and the show was a lot more grassroots and less "produced" feeling.

Dirthead Dave (The Dirthead Shed) on Youtube is pretty good.  Dave has some good production values, decent mix of tech and entertainment, and is genuinely fun to watch. 

Fred Williams.....I try.....  I just can't get into Fred's content, not sure why.  I feel legit bad for the dude.   He is funny, good with tech, and a good storyteller but the content on his channel is not ideal.  The lack of good production kills it for me.

Finnegan's Youtube channel is meh.  I can't watch 1:15 of Finnegan derping around, if the episodes were 20 minutes I would watch every one.  

Roadkill and Roadkill garage are worth watching, get some genuine tech and genuine laughs.  But we should pour out a 40 for all the good E36 M3 we have lost.  Junkyard Gold...Dirt Every Day...is Engine Masters cancelled yet?

 

On the NewPipe/ReVanced discussion I had Newpipe on my tablet and I am not sure if I got a bad APK or what but it did not play nice on my decent tablet (top end Galaxy Tab).  Lotta crashing, some weird adds and missing stuff that looked like ads should have been there, etc.  ReVanced just works, as long as you are OK with patching it from time time time as Youtube comes out with new updates.  

 

Steve Magnante has his own youtube channel with junkyard content.  He was very ill last summer (brain infection?) so different people filled in on his channel to create content while he was in ICU.  He's recovering & making content again...https://www.youtube.com/@SteveMagnante

Hoondavan said:

93gsxturbo said:

Killing Dirt Every Day was real sad for me.  Fred and Dave were as good as Freiburger and Finnegan with their antics and chemistry and the show was a lot more grassroots and less "produced" feeling.

Dirthead Dave (The Dirthead Shed) on Youtube is pretty good.  Dave has some good production values, decent mix of tech and entertainment, and is genuinely fun to watch. 

Fred Williams.....I try.....  I just can't get into Fred's content, not sure why.  I feel legit bad for the dude.   He is funny, good with tech, and a good storyteller but the content on his channel is not ideal.  The lack of good production kills it for me.

Finnegan's Youtube channel is meh.  I can't watch 1:15 of Finnegan derping around, if the episodes were 20 minutes I would watch every one.  

Roadkill and Roadkill garage are worth watching, get some genuine tech and genuine laughs.  But we should pour out a 40 for all the good E36 M3 we have lost.  Junkyard Gold...Dirt Every Day...is Engine Masters cancelled yet?

 

On the NewPipe/ReVanced discussion I had Newpipe on my tablet and I am not sure if I got a bad APK or what but it did not play nice on my decent tablet (top end Galaxy Tab).  Lotta crashing, some weird adds and missing stuff that looked like ads should have been there, etc.  ReVanced just works, as long as you are OK with patching it from time time time as Youtube comes out with new updates.  

 

Steve Magnante has his own youtube channel with junkyard content.  He was very ill last summer (brain infection?) so different people filled in on his channel to create content while he was in ICU.  He's recovering & making content again...https://www.youtube.com/@SteveMagnante

 

Is Steve making new content or just rehashing his old episodes?  I have not watched one for probably 6 months.  Tried some of his guest appearances.  As my Grandma would say, "Its the thought that counts".

Glad he is better, though.  He is a gearhead thru and thru.  

I think the episodes Steve is posting now were recorded earlier but haven't been shown yet.  He's still undergoing rehab.

I enjoyed Junkyard gold I guess. Steve seems like a nice enough guy and I'm glad he's not dead.

His knowledge is encyclopedic, but so was his personality.

Dirt Everyday was one of our favorites even though off roading is something we couldn't care less about. The hosts were friendly and had great chemistry and really made the show enjoyable to watch.

HRG was generally good. I loved Tony and Lucky together. I left before the new lady showed up so... no opinion there.

Roadkill was fun, but I don't think I realized how annoying Freiburger was until I saw a few of the Finnegan/De Angelo episodes. Stop crying about Obama and put some shoes on.

I watch Tony's channel, I catch Mike's from time to time. I really don't miss MTOD.

AClockworkGarage said:

Roadkill was fun, but I don't think I realized how annoying Freiburger was until I saw a few of the Finnegan/De Angelo episodes. Stop crying about Obama and put some shoes on.

I really began to appreciate Tony's work when he did Drag Week with Finnegan.  His work ethic was epic in that series, and Mike would have never made it to the end without him.

eastsideTim said:

When David Newburn left Finnegan's channel, his production quality dropped.  It is getting better, but yeah, I have been skipping his show unless it looks like a really interesting topic, just due to how long they are getting.  It seems like a lot of the YouTubers I watch are making their videos longer, so I wonder if the payout algorithm is pushing it.

It's interesting if the algorithm is pushing it now, because I remember a couple years ago anything longer than 15 minutes got penalized heavily. Like, you could be subscribed to a channel and the video wouldn't show up in your subscriptions if it was thirty minutes or longer. The one channel I watched was chopping their videos up into awkwardly-segmented 10 minute videos because otherwise people weren't seeing them if they went and hunted them down. But, I noticed that Cleetus MacFarland has been releasing hour-long videos lately and he's said they've been smashing viewership records for his channel video after video.

Finnegan's channel to me is just often too long a video for no payoff. Great, I watched an hour and a half video of some expert explaining how to adjust a clutch, then the car is never run or fired up, and then next week you'll have another hour and a half video of the same expert showing how to adjust the clutch again because offscreen in between videos it chewed up another clutch. Tune in next week when we again have the same "expert" try to explain why he's back for another hour and a half video fixing the same clutch on the same car. Seriously, the amount of videos he puts out with experts working on his cars where the issue never seems to get resolved is kind of mind-blowing. At some point, stop publishing them as they happen, the condense them into a single 20 minute video explaining the various issues and resolutions.

A lot of Finnegan's content I'm just not interested in.  Many of his longer videos are just him screwing around, most of it could be condensed down with proper editing to make it far easier to watch.  Then there are the issues NickD brought up, where his stuff is constantly broken, not fixed correctly, projects not done etc.  He never seems to properly finish and test anything, then stuff breaks as a result.  For Roadkill, since it's part of their show, I get it.  For my own stuff, that would drive me crazy and it's hard for me to watch as I just don't understand it.

I still prefer content in the 20-30 min range.  To me speed academy is great at this; they have a quick introduction set the expectation and deliver on the content.  

I also really like superfastMatt and stanceworks for the length and style of the content.  I like the way they do voiceovers that walk through what they are doing, why, etc.  

I do think its funny as society continues to display shorter and shorter attention spans Youtube thinks we want longer and longer forms of content.  In reality an hour of content ends up with 30 minutes of B roll and not 2x the quality.  

Seeing rumors that they pulled the plug on the last shows they were still running.

Onwards towards enE36 M3tification!

In reply to Mr_Asa :

Would not surprise me.  Based on their Instagram posts and YouTube videos, filming for a whole season of Faster has been done for over a month, and they haven't aired a single episode.  HRG Day at Famoso was last weekend, so HRG filming for the season is presumably done, too, but no episodes released.  
 

It used to be that the hosts were very careful to not show much of what was going on on their shows before an episode aired, but over the last month or so, their YouTube videos seem a bit more open.

I did see that Roadworthy Restorations is supposed to premiere in early December, but of the Motortrend shows I watch, that's the one I'm least interested in.

At least it'll be one less streaming service for me to pay for.

Maybe I'm strange,  but I really enjoy the practical shows, and outside of the old top gear, just don't like the faux reality TV style stuff. Just like the early wheeler-dealers were the best. 

Yeah MT is clearly done. Every show host has their own YT set up now. Pour one out. 

Docwemple said:

Maybe I'm strange,  but I really enjoy the practical shows, and outside of the old top gear, just don't like the faux reality TV style stuff. Just like the early wheeler-dealers were the best. 

No, you're not strange (at least in that regard; I don't know what kind of weird stuff you get up to on your own time). I'm with you on the scripted, over-produced shows. The more screaming guitars and swish-rattle-clang sound effects you hear, the more camera angles they use, the more "antics" the "talent" gets up to, the less actual content they need. The less content they need, the less the show costs to make, and the lower the IQ of the viewer. And that's what they want. Dumber viewers watch longer, are more susceptible to blatant product placement, are less likely to skip ads and more likely to be influenced by them.

It ain't rocket surgery.

they should never have given the boot to dirt every day, that was the start of the downfall. 

I feel bad that this once great Empire is falling apart piece by piece , to be replaced by YouTube / TikTok etc videos  along with all the paper magazines that have been dropped , 

Glad GRM  is still  printing 

Seems strange to have entire seasons in the can, ready to go, and not air them.

I'm sure they will air what they have.

I'm wondering if they are dragging their feet on editing, so there just isn't anything to release yet.

It seems like a lot of the old content has found its way to HBO's MAX streaming service.  Wife and I were watching Tony and Mobile-Tech Lucky on Hot Rod Garage just last night.  They had like 8 seasons of it.

Wake me up When speedvision come back. 

Doo dah, doo dah

Update from Finn.