Growing up in the '70's, these two cars were everywhere, like it or not. Which is the better and why?
Growing up in the '70's, these two cars were everywhere, like it or not. Which is the better and why?
you know what, I like the mustang deuce. esp with cool king cobra scheme.
but I'd pick a corvair monza over it.
a regular chevy monza? nah
What was the Monza with the Spider on the hood? That was cool.
If it's Mustang II:
vs Monza:
I'll take POR 15. Have to say that as much as I love cars, not sure either one would excite me, even in "Cobra" form.
Tough one, Modded V8 MII vs IMSA Monza.... I want an MII, though I like both.
None of the above? Capri or Hornet for me, thanks.
You know the Mustang II was basically a glorified Pinto, don't you?
jstein77 wrote: You know the Mustang II was basically a glorified Pinto, don't you?
Just like how the Monza was a glorified Vega. What's your point?
Chris_V wrote: Tough one, Modded V8 MII vs IMSA Monza.... I want an MII, though I like both.
A better comparison of the IMSA version:
jstein77 wrote: You know the Mustang II was basically a glorified Pinto, don't you?
yeah, just slightly longer wheelbase and factory V8. Proportionally they are a little goofy, which is why I photoshopped that silver convertible up there. Moved the front wheels 4" forward and a few inches upward to fix the proportion problems of the front fender, and then sunk the stock bumpers in by a similar amount in order to make them less bulky while still being there.
Chris_V wrote: Tough one, Modded V8 MII vs IMSA Monza.... I want an MII, though I like both.
Comparing the street version:
bravenrace wrote:jstein77 wrote: You know the Mustang II was basically a glorified Pinto, don't you?Just like how the Monza was a glorified Vega. What's your point?
Not sure that's true. I thought the Monza was a from-scratch new chassis originally intended for the stillborn GM rotary engine.
All i know is that i love me some Pintostang!
oldsaw wrote: A better comparison of the IMSA version:
Yeah, even though I had a model of that car, I've never really been a fan of the way it looks. It's the whole headlight area that fails for me, as it loses the M II identity. The Monza keeps it's identity, even with the box flares.
Was'nt there a super limited Monza w/ a V8? The IMSA Monzas are just awesome. Very loud and fast.
In reply to jstein77:
It is true as much as it is with the Mustang and the Pino. I had a Vega for years, along with two Olds Starfire's, and there were tons of parts that were interchangeable between the two.
BTW, I also had a '71 Pinto wagon and a '78 Mustang II.
None of these cars were stock. 
MII, all the way.
wrek496 wrote: Was'nt there a super limited Monza w/ a V8? The IMSA Monzas are just awesome. Very loud and fast.
Monza Spider. Or was it Spyder?
oldsaw wrote:Chris_V wrote: Tough one, Modded V8 MII vs IMSA Monza.... I want an MII, though I like both.Comparing the street version:
The MII I posted is heavily lowered with fat flares, so I didn't want to post a non flared Monza. I'd say a better match would have been the Monza Mirage with the factory boxed flares:
I step away for a minute and everything I was going to say has been posted!
LIved with both, in V8 flavor. Prefered the Ford. The build quality of the Monza was incredibly bad.
This, in my estimation, is horribly ugly;
Both of these things have me shuddering.
jstein77 wrote:bravenrace wrote:Not sure that's true. I thought the Monza was a from-scratch new chassis originally intended for the stillborn GM rotary engine.jstein77 wrote: You know the Mustang II was basically a glorified Pinto, don't you?Just like how the Monza was a glorified Vega. What's your point?
Sorry, but the Monza was a re-skinned Vega and used most of its' underpinnings. The V8 version had clearances so tight the rear spark plugs were under the cowl and nearly impossible to access.
R&T tested a V8 version and noted the brakes were standard Vega fare. They were terribly inadequate because the Monza weighed more and the bias was moved further to the front. Heat build-up was so bad that the plastic wheel covers melted and fell off the car during braking tests.
After doing some wiki-work it seems V8 was an option for all but the last year. But this was the 70s so V8 meant 130-140hp tops. What a horrible period for cars. Especially american ones. The Dekon Monzas dominated Camel GT in 76 & 77. I honestly wouldn't want a street version of either of these. My Mom had a monza and a friend later had a MII. Both were crap.
My dad had a 350 swapped Monza with grippy BFG's all around in the late '70's. Said it was an absolute riot. I'll have to upload scanned pics someday.
My vote is Monza.
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