Remember the GMT800 2wd truck had R&P steering and drive much more car-like than the 4wd versions. I recommend a CC 2wd short bed. perfect riding tow vehicle.
Remember the GMT800 2wd truck had R&P steering and drive much more car-like than the 4wd versions. I recommend a CC 2wd short bed. perfect riding tow vehicle.
In reply to Jaynen :
The funny part is that on the forums, a lot of the guys who have the 5.7 Sequoia say it doesn't really pull much better than the 4.7, and tha the improvement is much bigger on paper than in reality.
We drove the 2nd gen Sequoia when we bought our 2005 and I didn't think it felt much more powerful (seat of pants, not towing), and it felt GIGANTIC to drive. I'm 6 feet tall and could hardly see over the hood during the test drive. The 1st gen just feels like a big 4Runner.
I've added the Chevy Avalanche to my short list now as well. They're a good deal around here it seems. From what I understand it's an LS-swapped Honda Ridgeline :)
irish44j said:In reply to Jaynen :
The funny part is that on the forums, a lot of the guys who have the 5.7 Sequoia say it doesn't really pull much better than the 4.7, and tha the improvement is much bigger on paper than in reality.
We drove the 2nd gen Sequoia when we bought our 2005 and I didn't think it felt much more powerful (seat of pants, not towing), and it felt GIGANTIC to drive. I'm 6 feet tall and could hardly see over the hood during the test drive. The 1st gen just feels like a big 4Runner.
That's really interesting, I am very afraid of buying a vehicle and then not having it be enough and then having to go through the trouble of finding something else I guess. If I was going to daily it then I would probably go sequoia, if I was only using it as a tow pig I would probably go 3/4ton burban
JG Pasterjak said:I've added the Chevy Avalanche to my short list now as well. They're a good deal around here it seems. From what I understand it's an LS-swapped Honda Ridgeline :)
They are even out there as 3/4ton versions
Patrick said:For the love of god please don’t buy an 06+ 5.3 gm. I don’t care what the fanboys say about failure rates with the AFM bits, but everyone i know who has had one has lost the engine to the issue, or had it happening when they traded it in. There was even a member here who bought one, everyone myself included said please delete the AFM, and a year later he posted motherberkeleying gm up and down because he didn’t listen. I got to quote myself from the prior year saying I told you so, and it felt satisfying doing so.
There's a solution to that. 6.0L FTW!
In reply to Jaynen :
That was just my perception in some city driving though. I didn't tow with the 5.7. I just didn't like driving the new sequoia in general, just felt bigger than it is. The 1st gen feels somewhat smaller than it is. But again, I think the 4.7 is fine for towing under 6k or so. But I used to tow the same car/trailer with a V6 4Runner so.......
Also think it depends on what you to. We tow an e30 on an open trailer with maybe 500l-700lbs of additional gear no problem. If we were towing enclosed trailer, the Sequoia might be a bit less than I'd want, I guess.
Patrick said:For the love of god please don’t buy an 06+ 5.3 gm.
My research is showing that the '06s don't have AFM. AFM started in '07. What's wrong with the '06s that put them on the "don't buy" list?
In reply to DeadSkunk :
my 2011 5.4 EL has done 40k trouble free to date, it will be at the Mitty in 2 weeks
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
06's are the old body style. Go drive both, GM did a MASSIVE leave forward in making the truck a more car like experience. If that's not important, then the 06 and previous trucks are a bargain.
mazdeuce - Seth said:In reply to JG Pasterjak :
06's are the old body style. Go drive both, GM did a MASSIVE leave forward in making the truck a more car like experience. If that's not important, then the 06 and previous trucks are a bargain.
The 07 is a split year, the "Silverado Classic" is the GMT800, the "Silverado" is the GMT900.
If you're looking at diesels, the GMT800 is preferable because it doesn't have a DPF.
irish44j said:05-07 Sequoia (with the extra power and extra gear above the 01-04). The 4.7 is decent power, super-smooth, and bulletproof to hundreds of thousands of miles. Cavernous, comfortable, and quiet interior (if a bit dated in appearance). Roll-down tailgate window is one awesome feature compared to most other similar size SUVs. Tows well (just add rear air bags for a hundred bucks) as long as you're not pulling something super-heavy. We load up with about 6k worth of car, trailer, tools, tires, and gear and it has no problems.
The best part about them is that they don't get the "4Runner/Tacoma/Tundra Tax" nor the "Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon" tax since apparently nobody thinks Sequoias are cool. But every member of my crew who has ridden in or driven it long-haul to races always says what a great tow rig it is. Not quite as powerful as the GMs from the same years, but I'd argue it's more reliable overall and (IMO) more pleasant place to spend time inside. The usual Toyota fit and finish. Mine is 13 years old now and not a single squeak or rattle anywhere in the interior. Basically it's just a big 4Runner with a lot more space that costs half as much on the used market, lol...
I know, I know. Suggesting anything other than a GM truck around here is like suggesting anything other than a Miata, but I have to try anyhow lol....
If I can find one, that's my next purchase; but, there's a really cheap 04 Tahoe sitting on the side of the road on my commute home too.
How about something with style, or this.
aussiesmg said:In reply to DeadSkunk :
my 2011 5.4 EL has done 40k trouble free to date, it will be at the Mitty in 2 weeks
Have you ever towed with it Steve?
mazdeuce - Seth said:In reply to JG Pasterjak :
06's are the old body style. Go drive both, GM did a MASSIVE leave forward in making the truck a more car like experience. If that's not important, then the 06 and previous trucks are a bargain.
I agree with the 4wd's. I still think the 2wd GMT800 is the better car-like truck. Its not as tall, a tick smaller etc. The 4wd, well that's another story. I've spent time in both. I prefer the smaller-ish 800. But drive both. See what fits your needs.
It appears I have struck a deal on this. I'll let you know this afternoon if the guy turns out to be a phycho or a murderer or something, but I think the deal is solid. Just turned 100k, perfectly clean inside, needs a few minor things that made for excellent bargaining points (seriously, people, spend some time detailing and look into prices of basic things. Sometimes the unwillingness to spend $100 can kill $500 worth of value).
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
That's a beautiful blue.
Bob the REAL oil guy. said:In reply to JG Pasterjak :
That's a beautiful blue.
How close are the blues? Add a little silver and red to the truck?
John Welsh said:Bob the REAL oil guy. said:In reply to JG Pasterjak :
That's a beautiful blue.
How close are the blues? Add a little silver and red to the truck?
They're close, but I think the LeMans blue is darker. Still, the truck will look nice pulling it. And a little silver and red vinyl wouldn't suck.
Wait, I'm confused here. Just 10 minutes ago while enjoying a delicious breakfast burrito for lunch, I was flipping thru the latest issue and reading about your fancy new tire trailer.
Now you're going to tow the whole car instead? Did you full-race this thing while I wasn't paying attention?
And this brings up another point: I really like tater-tots.
USERNAMETAKEN said:Now you're going to tow the whole car instead? Did you full-race this thing while I wasn't paying attention?
Heh... about that....
USERNAMETAKEN said:Wait, I'm confused here. Just 10 minutes ago while enjoying a delicious breakfast burrito for lunch, I was flipping thru the latest issue and reading about your fancy new tire trailer.
Now you're going to tow the whole car instead? Did you full-race this thing while I wasn't paying attention?
And this brings up another point: I really like tater-tots.
Well, things have escalated a bit, but it's still fully streetable and the Leroy Engineering trailer is still awesome. But it's still a sportscar. And while the Leroy Trailer is perfect for a weekend autocross, it's not great if we want to take a magazine booth, or I want to take our broadcast gear to do live shows, or if we're doing a tire test and have three sets of wheels.
Also, there are plenty of reasons for a man to own a truck besides towing a Corvette (although none of them are as good).
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
Now you just need a 2/4 drop kit, rear sway bar and some bigger wheels and tires. These look sexy with a mild drop pulling a car trailer. I’ve been begging my wife for 12 years to let me drop her crewcab mildly.
Just want to mention that Hellwig makes big sway bars for the front and rear of these that make the truck a bit less trucky in daily life both for stock heights and lowered. I've enjoyed them on my truck.
Good choice. Nice balance of towing capability, comfort, versatility and daily-driving economy. Parts and service are readily available anywhere in America. And if you ever need a windshield, you won't have to wait on one from Turkey.
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