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Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/17/18 1:16 p.m.

My wife and I have decided I need something to make me happy.  She is against any sort of water conveyance for aquatic creature extraction.  Purpose is to autox some and do track days/nights..  So. Here goes the 2nd Car I've looked at in a while.  The first was a rusty e30.  That car was a shed.  This car much better and cheaper, but just didn't have it.  

Took a look at an EF civic last night $2500.. Buyer won't move on price(huge disatisfier).

Goods:

No real rust (tiny rear 1/4 bubbles, underneath is clean)

B18B1 (supposedly just redone head due to dropped valve).  Engine area was clean, engine was clean.. no reason to doubt seller.

Hasport swap mounts (with very stiff mounts).

AGX coilovers..

rear big sway.. no front. 

Rear Disk Brake conversion

Janky rad mounts

Bent rims...

Kinda runs ok before 4K rpm.. then smooths out and runs nice.. pulls hard

Bads:

Any real rust.. Very clean

Some kinda janky conversion to run the B18B1 on OBD0..  No 02 sensor, using OBD0 injectors.  

mismatched body panels 

Random poorly done wiring jobs under the hood.  Car was originally a track car and has some issues.

 

  

Impressions:

It moves OK, but rattles like a very tightly coiled civic should.  Didn't have a real magical feeling about it, but would be competent on a track.  If the price were in the range of $1700 to $2000, I would have purchased it.  At $2500, I have some sort of mental block and won't buy.  I guess I'm old, but STS competitive cars go for not too much more than this...  

 

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim MegaDork
10/17/18 1:20 p.m.

I’m pretty decent with electronics but E36 M3ty wiring jobs tend to really annoy me. That would be enough to pass on that car for me.

But I’m old, too .

Duke
Duke MegaDork
10/17/18 1:21 p.m.

Considering E46s in similar to better condition are nudging that price range, I don't think your standards are too high.

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
10/17/18 1:24 p.m.

Hard pass on that pile.

grover
grover HalfDork
10/17/18 1:28 p.m.

seems like frustration waiting to happen, isn't this supposed to make you happy? 

Cotton
Cotton PowerDork
10/17/18 1:29 p.m.

Doesn’t sound like your standards are too high.  Keep looking...you’ll find something that clicks eventually.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/17/18 1:29 p.m.

Still have my GTI...wink

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
10/17/18 1:32 p.m.

Were I looking for a car specifically for autocross, I would focus on cars built and already sorted for a given class, unless there are other driving factors. 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/17/18 1:44 p.m.

In reply to SVreX :

you do.. Still don't know how I would get it to the north.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
10/17/18 1:45 p.m.

Fail Wheel Drive = not interested at all for me. Especially an older, poorly done and hacked on Civic. 

I don't think your standards are too high.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
10/17/18 1:51 p.m.

that's too much dough for too little car. 

Sounds like from that price you could fly an drive for a rust-free example and spend about the same.

EDIT: oh wait, you're on the west coast. maybe not on the FAD.

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke SuperDork
10/17/18 1:55 p.m.

What's your price range? 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/17/18 1:55 p.m.

In reply to ultraclyde :

Minnesota.  Can do fly and drive... I fly enough... so miles are easy to come by...

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/17/18 1:56 p.m.

In reply to clutchsmoke :

Less than 3.. closer to 2 would be better.. 

Vigo
Vigo UltimaDork
10/17/18 2:07 p.m.

I feel the same about the price as OP does. You can always text him a lowball number every month until he sells it or tells you to stop. I try not to be in a hurry to get cars unless it's a crazy deal that will disappear within hours. 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/17/18 2:16 p.m.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :

This is for fun, right?  

Are you 100% sure that you don't have a desirable care that you *really* want?  Even in a specific price range?

If the Honda is *that* car, then awesome.  But given what you are doing with it, having fun also means enjoying owning it.  Unless winning a NC is really important to you.  I knew there were faster cars than what I played with, but I'm also very confident that none of the cars would be so enjoyable over time that I will never sell the car.

Think about that for a while.  Again, if the Honda checks that box, perfect.  But if not.....

P3PPY
P3PPY Reader
10/17/18 2:26 p.m.

I agree with the above posts about it not being all that dreamy. For me getting my dream car was like finding "the one." I saw it, KNEW I wanted it and got it the next day.

Maybe you could start with the car of your dreams and the hive mind can find a suitable facsimile or even a surprising deal for you.

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
10/17/18 2:42 p.m.

Be picky. If you don't like it you won't drive it. 

Interested in a E-Mod that isn't street legal and has no title. 

 

 

Toebra
Toebra Dork
10/17/18 3:06 p.m.

You think your standards are too high, I think I have the opposite problem.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/17/18 3:41 p.m.

In reply to Toyman01 :

Yes.  Same problem as svrex. 

Floating Doc
Floating Doc Dork
10/17/18 4:55 p.m.
Ian F said:

Were I looking for a car specifically for autocross, I would focus on cars built and already sorted for a given class, unless there are other driving factors. 

Advice I wish I could have followed, just didn't know enough when I bought my NB. I am happy with it, but I could have saved a lot of money.

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
10/17/18 6:39 p.m.

Buy it for $2500, sell it for $5000?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
10/17/18 7:31 p.m.

Too many red flags, the main one being "janky conversion".  Pass.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
10/17/18 8:04 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:

In reply to Toyman01 :

Yes.  Same problem as svrex. 

Shipping?

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/17/18 8:48 p.m.

In reply to MrJoshua :

Yeah it's not cheap 600-700 on u ship.  I live way up there. 

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