84FSP
84FSP Reader
6/24/15 12:47 p.m.

Have to say I'm liking it!

All roads lead to the Eternal City as Alfa will build its new four-door sedan on home soil. Get ready for a new Italian dish. After three years in the cold, Alfa's new four-door Giulia sedan is poised for launch here next year.

The car - a parts-bin exercise with input from Ferrari and Maserati - will be the first new-breed Alfa sedan since Fiat-Chrysler Automobile boss Sergio Marchionne shook up the brand, declaring earlier this year that he wanted it returned to its pre-Fiat sports roots.

Integral with Marchionne's new focus, all future Alfa Romeos will be rear-wheel or all-wheel drive, have a strong accent on performance, and be wholly made in Italy. "Alfa Romeos have to be produced in Italy with an Italian powertrain," Marchionne said at the Geneva motor show in March.

"Some things belong to a place, and Alfa belongs to Italy." The Giulia - a name resurfacing from the original 1962 sedan - is expected in Australia early in 2016. It is a successor to the front-wheel drive 159 and will be made as a sedan and wagon.

Its entry price could be under $45,000 based on predictions of a car equipped for the UK market, where it will be launched in late 2015. Fiat Chrysler Group director of communications in Australia Karla Leach says only that it's a car "we'd definitely take". She says no details of the car or its launch date have been released.

The Giulia was an on-off project since 2011. At one stage, Marchionne pulled the plug because he says the designers came up with a car style that looked "bland like a Lexus". The restyle creates a shape more aligned with the current Giulietta - a model ironically that may be ditched - and uses some frontal styling highlights of the 4C coupe.

More than a pretty shape, the Giulia will use drivetrains including some designed by Ferrari and shared with Maserati. The 3.0-litre V6 turbo, from the Maserati Ghibli, is likely to be the top-shelf power option.

The Giulia may also come with Alfa's 180kW 1750cc turbo four-cylinder - used in the Alfa 4C coupe and Spider - or a new 1.8-litre version with 221kW. European markets are also likely to get a turbo diesel.

Transmission options could include the 4C's dual-clutch gearbox but it's made ideally for a transverse design and its harsh gearshifts may be unsuitable for Alfa's desire for an up-market sedan. The Giulia may use a ZF auto, from the supplier of the Ghibli's eight-speeder.

Alfa is on record as saying the Giulia, and its big-sister Alfetta due in 2017, will aim to combine sports handling with sedan ride comfort.

Suspension design will include active-roll control that automatically adjusts springs and dampers through corners and over irregular road surfaces.

An additional active damping system would enable the driver to adjust the ride and handling balance.The Giulia is also expected to come standard with the switchable DNA program - already available on the MiTo and Giulietta - which changes steering weight and accelerator response. The sedan - and later a wagon - will be built at Fiat's Cassino factory near Rome. The engines will be trucked in from Fiat plants in southern and central Italy.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
6/24/15 12:51 p.m.

IDK if that image is the real thing, looks like an artists impression unless it's a completely different car than the recent leaks.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
6/24/15 12:53 p.m.

http://allparnews.com/index.php/2015/06/alfa-romeo-launch-in-progress-29035

Here is a site with all the released pics now.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey PowerDork
6/24/15 12:53 p.m.

Hope it's not based on a Chrysler platform...

kanaric
kanaric Dork
6/24/15 12:56 p.m.
DaveEstey wrote: Hope it's not based on a Chrysler platform...

It was tested on the Maserati Ghibli platform.

oldtin
oldtin UberDork
6/24/15 12:58 p.m.

wonder how terrifying maintenance is with Ferrari/Maserati parts and systems and if the computers are locked down like theirs (requiring a 50k diagnostics computer to do much of anything.

xflowgolf
xflowgolf Dork
6/24/15 1:32 p.m.

the picture in the first post of this thread is not a picture of the actual new Giulia Quadrifoglio.

That was unveiled today. Here's a pic of the real deal:

Full gallery in this article here: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/06/official-2016-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-revealed-detailed/

CGLockRacer
CGLockRacer SuperDork
6/24/15 2:30 p.m.

I like it but I don't. The headlights look like an Audi mated with a Chrysler 200. +

The rear looks like Audi and Lexus LFA.

+

And the side looks like an E90 M3

It works, but still look derivative.

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
6/24/15 2:34 p.m.
xflowgolf wrote: the picture in the first post of this thread is not a picture of the actual new Giulia Quadrifoglio. That was unveiled today. Here's a pic of the real deal: Full gallery in this article here: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/06/official-2016-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-revealed-detailed/

I really, really like it.

I wonder what it will cost with that nasty V6 in it though. $70-75k?

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
6/24/15 2:46 p.m.

From the CL of the front wheels forward, there's a lot of unique in that.

Back- it looks like a whole lot of other stuff.

Then again, so did the Giulia TI. The GT at least looked Bertone designed. And the Spider looked Pininfarina designed.

oldtin
oldtin UberDork
6/24/15 2:57 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac:

I think one article they're saying it doesn't take much to hit 80k. More interested in the depreciation curve

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
6/24/15 3:03 p.m.
oldtin wrote: In reply to z31maniac: I think one article they're saying it doesn't take much to hit 80k. More interested in the depreciation curve

Back in the early 70's, a buddy of mine traded a Datsun 2000 for a GTA Jr straight up. One used car for the other.

Maybe you can find that kind of trade with the new car.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
6/24/15 3:53 p.m.

The head lights look like off a BMW not off of a Chrysler.

Regardless head lights these days look like garbage and several cars they look identical so what they look like is irrelevant to me.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
6/24/15 3:56 p.m.

Ojala
Ojala HalfDork
6/24/15 6:40 p.m.

I thought the ghibli is based on the 300 platform? Alfa lists the Giulia as wishbone front and multilink rear so I guess it's possible.

I was under the impression that the maserati/Ferrari 6 was a modified pentastar block. Of course it's probably been dipped in unicorn tears and consecrated in an arcane ritual to ensure frequent and expensive repairs.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w UltraDork
6/24/15 7:08 p.m.
Ojala wrote: I thought the ghibli is based on the 300 platform? Alfa lists the Giulia as wishbone front and multilink rear so I guess it's possible. I was under the impression that the maserati/Ferrari 6 was a modified pentastar block. Of course it's probably been dipped in unicorn tears and consecrated in an arcane ritual to ensure frequent and expensive repairs.

I think it goes: Current Quattroporte/Ghibli > Guilia > next gen Chrysler 300 platform

SilverFleet
SilverFleet UltraDork
6/24/15 9:22 p.m.

I'm not gonna lie, I want that BAD!!! RWD modern Alfa available in the States? Sign me up.

Well, sign me up when I either hit the lottery, or in 20 years when I can afford one.

JacktheRiffer
JacktheRiffer Reader
6/24/15 9:51 p.m.

I lime it alot. To bad Ill probably never be able to buy one.

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit UberDork
6/25/15 9:23 a.m.

I think it looks great, and hopefully it will depreciate in 4 years to the point where I can get one. Please, please, please.

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