dannyp84
dannyp84 Reader
6/27/22 11:53 a.m.

Last December I bought a 2010 Frontier to tow my FB RX-7 to and from the track. This season has gotten off to a slow start, but yesterday I finally got to really test things out when I towed the car to Pitt Race for a skid pad drift event. In the past, I had always just driven the car to Pitt Race as it's only about 1.5 hrs away, and I told myself I'd save the truck and trailer for longer trips, but this time I wanted to use it for experience purposes. Now that I've done it, and realized how much less fatigued I was on the ride home, I think I'll use the trailer extensively.

The car and trailer together are less than 3800 lbs, but I still had to do some trial and error to get the tongue weight where I wanted it. Once I found that spot, the truck and trailer combo were really stable, though I don't usually tow anything at more than 70 mph or so. I replaced the front brakes on the truck recently, and I didn't run into any situations were I felt under-braked. I did forget to check tire pressure on the truck, and I need to look up whether I need to run more pressure while towing. The FB is a blast to drive on the street, but on long highway runs it is loud, hot, and rides like pallet jack. Towing the car home was almost a revelation. I could hear the stereo, the a/c in the truck works great, and on some of the flatter sections of highway I was able to run the cruise control and avoid that weird cramp behind your knee from long hours on the gas pedal. 

Earlier this year, I was worried that I might've wasted a fair bit of money in buying the trailer if I didn't get a ton of use out of it, but yesterday it all felt worth the investment. While at the track, I ran the car harder and wasn't afraid to use up the tires, since I didn't need them to get me home. Also, although the FB RX-7 is almost 4th dimensional in terms of how much cargo will fit in the hatch, there's nothing like a truck bed. I was able to bring an EZ up tent, a couple chairs and a cooler, and I didn't have to listen to my bag of tools clanging behind my head. All of this might seem obvious to those of you who have used a trailer for a while, but it took me years to justify the big purchase. It also seems that my friends are more willing to tag along when they don't have to spend hours in the FB without creature comforts. I think the biggest factor in not feeling so tired was the difference in noise - between exhaust drone and having to ride with the windows down, the RX-7 is probably 3 or 4x louder than riding in the truck.

I haven't calculated it myself yet, but the information on the dash display says the truck did 14.5 mpg, which is 3 mpg better than when I used to borrow my dad's Silverado. Certainly there is a big power difference between the two trucks, but with RX-7 being fairly light, the Nissan never really felt too strained. Before the next trip, I'd like to check the transmission fluid, and look into whether an auxiliary cooler is necessary. I didn't use overdrive for 90% of the trip, but on some longer flat sections or slight downhills I allowed it, just to try and gain some efficiency. 

I think one of my big takeaways is that comfort and luxury are all relative. Compared to my neighbor's new Laramie Ram, with cooled seats and radar cruise, the Nissan is pretty austere. But when you spend all day blasting around track in the heat, a little truck with good air conditioning and relatively little road noise feels like an oasis. Maybe I'm getting wiser, but probably just getting old.

 

dannyp84
dannyp84 Reader
6/27/22 12:05 p.m.

Obligatory towing photo. And a quick clip from one of my runs. At skid pad events, I really only care about the first corner entry, the rest is kind of easy and boring and I often just drive normally through it to save tires. On the entry, I've been working on coming in at high speed and getting the car to snap to angle quickly, for max excitement. It's one of those things that I assume is 5% car setup and 95% driver technique, so I'm working my own bugs out:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CfUJN1CsKZa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

ggarrard
ggarrard Reader
6/27/22 12:59 p.m.

Dannyp84... If your Frontier has the tow package there is an auxiliary cooler behind the grille just to the left of the hood latch...

 

And... good looking setup...  Enjoy the luxury of having a tow vehicle...

Cheers

Gordon 

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
6/27/22 1:08 p.m.

Love the RX-7.

Cheeks
Cheeks New Reader
6/27/22 3:12 p.m.

I work at pitt race and saw you towing that thing in, that car looks awesome!

 

from someone who has been towing his cars for a long time, I concur, it is so much easier to jump in my dually, put on the AC/cruise control and run home vs messing around with the car. I will say loading it up after a long day/weekend is rough, but its merely a minor inconvienence. 

buzzboy
buzzboy SuperDork
6/27/22 3:52 p.m.

My only complaint about towing the racecar, is how comfortable the tow vehicle is. After 3 days/nights of racing and working in the sun and camping I'm usually BEAT. Driving the racecar home keeps me awake. Driving the tow pig home I may get a bit sleepy.

dannyp84
dannyp84 Reader
6/27/22 10:30 p.m.

In reply to Cheeks :

Ah nice! Pitt Race has really become a massive facility these days, I hope to race there for Champcar in October. Even the skid pad is reasonably fun because there's enough room to get to 60-70 mph depending on the car. 

dannyp84
dannyp84 Reader
6/27/22 10:35 p.m.

In reply to ggarrard :

I just went outside to check and it does have the cooler, lots more surface area than I expected. There's also a tiny cooler down low on the driver side that looks like a pipe cleaner, is that for power steering? 

LanEvo
LanEvo Dork
6/28/22 5:30 a.m.

I bought my first truck 2 years ago to serve as tow pig and daily driver. It's a 2020 Ram, which I chose because it had the smoothest ride compared to other trucks in its class. I don't have room for trailer parking, so I rent from UHaul on track weekends. For me, it's the perfect compromise  

TJL (Forum Supporter)
TJL (Forum Supporter) Dork
6/28/22 7:29 a.m.

I did not tow with mine a ton, but it seemed to handle it good.  Heres the biggest haul. Towed about 2 hours home, no drama. 

Loweguy5
Loweguy5 HalfDork
6/28/22 7:54 a.m.

If you want to go next level in your towing game, consider a weight distributing hitch.  I have used them extensively towing from 3500 lbs to over 8000 and no matter how good the towing experience is before using one, it's far better with the addition of one.

Effectively it will allow you to level truck and trailer which will put more weight back onto your steering wheels.  The ease at which the whole setup will go down the highway will be significantly improved.

Just a suggestion from a long-time tower.  Great truck by the way!

dannyp84
dannyp84 Reader
6/28/22 12:12 p.m.

In reply to LanEvo :

Is that an Ev0 4 and are you towing it onto a ferry?

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
6/28/22 2:55 p.m.

I think my 2019 Colorado got better mileage towing than our new 2022 Tahoe too.  It's hard to know since it was a Blue Ridge mountains tow though.  Mileage got better once I hit I20, but I think the Colorado was a bit better.

ggarrard
ggarrard Reader
6/29/22 1:00 p.m.

dannyp84 wrote: 

"There's also a tiny cooler down low on the driver side that looks like a pipe cleaner, is that for power steering? "

Yes... I  believe it is...

Gordon 

dannyp84
dannyp84 HalfDork
9/25/23 2:00 p.m.

Just a quick record of everything the truck has pulled so far:

 

Not pictured but also towed regularly last year is my FB RX-7, which is why I bought the truck and trailer in the first place. Though now that I have the SCCA FC, I think the FB will get to go back to being used primarily on the street. 
Of the above vehicles, the Montero was the only thing that really gave the truck any trouble, and it seemed like the issue wasn't weight so much as just being so tall and pushing so much air. It wasn't as steady as I'd like above 70 mph so I kept it to 65. Usually on a long highway trip towing, the truck gets approx 13 mpg. Pretty content with the size vs capability of this truck, I just hope I can get a few more years out of it before rust wins the battle.

ggarrard
ggarrard Reader
9/25/23 2:58 p.m.

The only towing modification I've made to my Frontier is replacing the original door mirrors with the larger "Titan" style which can be extended outward a couple inches to see around wide loads (my pontoon boat).   

Found out the hard way than actual Titan mirrors have a different mount so cannot be fitted, but the after market makes some...  ( https://www.amazon.com/Trail-Ridge-Mirror-Heated-Textured/dp/B0733JBF4V ) that fit including the correct wiring plug for heated and power options.

As for the rust... have the truck oil sprayed a couple times.  I do mine annually, but I'm in the rust belt when salted roads are standard procedure

Pic of truck mirror

ggarrard
ggarrard Reader
9/25/23 3:02 p.m.

Mirror mounted...

dannyp84
dannyp84 HalfDork
9/25/23 3:09 p.m.

In reply to ggarrard :

I oiled my truck with woolwax last fall, but the rust had already gotten a good head start. One of my exhaust hangers completely disintegrated a few weeks ago for example. And one of the bed rails is cracked. As long as the frame holds up I can deal with the rest.

jwagner (Forum Supporter)
jwagner (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
9/26/23 12:25 p.m.

The pointer to wider mirrors is going to come in handy.  We've been towing a R Pod camping trailer with our 2010 Pathfinder and seeing behind it would be nice.  Should have done that a while back.   The gas mileage isn't so nice, we average about 9 mpg with the trailer.  (and the V8)

ggarrard
ggarrard Reader
9/26/23 2:20 p.m.

In reply to jwagner (Forum Supporter) :

The Trail Ridge part number is TR00051 for the power heated mirrors...   

Google shows several sources besides Amazon including ebay and some independent stores. I think I went with Ebay Canada for my purchase...

My previous tow vehicle was an 08 Pathfinder,  and yeah... watching for shadows on the road to see how closely somebody is following is no fun.wink

Gordon 

LanEvo
LanEvo Dork
9/30/23 5:50 p.m.
dannyp84 said:

In reply to LanEvo :

Is that an Ev0 4 and are you towing it onto a ferry?

Pretty much! It's an Evo II GSR that I bought to try my hand at hillclimb racing. Needed to take a ferry at one point on the way to my first event in Vermont. It was pretty cool.

I've since gotten rid of the 2020 Ram. It didn't make sense to buy out my lease as Dodge finance rates hit 8% even with a good credit score. This season I've been renting truck and trailer from U-Haul. Total price for a 3-day weekend comes in around $700 for local tracks. That's about the same as one monthly truck payment and includes truck, trailer, mileage, and insurance. When I go to Mosport or Tremblant, it's closer to $900 (you pay extra for mileage over a certain amount). Since I'm only racing 3-4 weekends a year, it makes more sense than paying truck payments, insurance, maintenance, and fuel at 13 mpg all year. And I'm not stuck daily driving a full-sized truck in the city.

dannyp84
dannyp84 HalfDork
10/1/23 10:57 p.m.

In reply to LanEvo :

Do you rent both the truck and trailer from Uhaul? As of today I've towed the trailer at least 7 times this year, and I haul my dirt bike around every couple of weeks, so it makes sense to have a truck on hand. However, I do get tired of daily driving it even in the winter when I stash the RX7s inside to keep them nice..

HopmanJones
HopmanJones Reader
10/2/23 8:10 a.m.

That looks like an econo-trailer. I have one, and no complaints so far

dannyp84
dannyp84 HalfDork
10/2/23 10:42 a.m.

In reply to HopmanJones :

It is! My only complaint is how easily the paint chips. I want to address all the exposed metal this winter if get around to it. I'd also like to add a few more marker lights to help with placing the trailer at night. I probably should've gone with the 15' version which would be a lot easier to maneuver around my garage and driveway, but the 18' makes for nice steady towing at highway speed.

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