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GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
11/30/16 3:18 p.m.

Oil is up nearly 10% since yesterday after OPEC agreed to production cuts. If you didn't get your CRX HFs and 1st-gen Insights already, it's too late now!

mazdeuce
mazdeuce UltimaDork
11/30/16 3:24 p.m.

I do have a first gen Insight, but I also paid $1.79 for regular this morning.

Dave
Dave Reader
11/30/16 3:29 p.m.

I've got a Mazda 2 so I'll all set. Of course that is balanced out by the wife's F150.

trucke
trucke Dork
11/30/16 3:30 p.m.

I'm good with the Focus, but the wife has a Highlander.

MattW
MattW New Reader
11/30/16 3:33 p.m.

Lincoln Navigator and a Ford E150 Conversion van.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
11/30/16 3:35 p.m.

2005 Yukon Denali XL (AWD). I guess I'm screwed. I'm confident that it'll come down soon.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
11/30/16 3:35 p.m.

what's nice for us is once it hits that magic $55/barrel the shale stuff in ND is good to go profit wise and we'll see us production increase.

Stefan
Stefan MegaDork
11/30/16 3:35 p.m.

I have a Focus RS and the last tank averaged about 16.9mpg of 92 Octane (mostly in town driving).

The wife's 01 Highlander averaged about 32mpg on our trip to the beach with it fully loaded with 3 adults and a baby and the cargo area full from top to bottom. We're not looking forward to replacing it, its been a great rig for us.

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
11/30/16 3:35 p.m.

I wasn't too concerned at $4/gallon so, whatever.

drdisque
drdisque HalfDork
11/30/16 3:38 p.m.
Dave wrote: I've got a Mazda 2 so I'll all set. Of course that is balanced out by the wife's F150.

Unless you drive the Mazda2 on the highway - just did a long road trip with a cargo carrier on top for the stroller (since it takes up the entire trunk). averaged about 25 mpg at 75 mpg. It's an automatic (wife's car) and wouldn't hold 4th on any sort of upward slope due to all the aero drag. Of course it was fine at 70 mph, but driving that slow on open highway just seemed dreadful.

MattW
MattW New Reader
11/30/16 3:39 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: I wasn't too concerned at $4/gallon so, whatever.

It's all about perspective, isn't it? UK is right at $6/gallon.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
11/30/16 3:45 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: I wasn't too concerned at $4/gallon so, whatever.

I was driving nice cheap v8 trucks the whole time. Through the $4 gallon years my daily was a 454 chevy dually with no overdrive and 4.10 gears.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
11/30/16 3:45 p.m.

Wife's Rio averages about 34mpg for her 70+ mile round trip. Mine is back up to 31 average on 93 octane.If I didn't like the throttle so much better than stock, I'd grab a junk yard ECU and go back to 87.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
11/30/16 3:51 p.m.

Paying about $5.39/gallon right now. This is considered relatively cheap by local standards

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
11/30/16 3:53 p.m.

What's a better use of money, a $30,000 car that gets 32mpg or a $3,000 truck that gets 13mpg?

MattW
MattW New Reader
11/30/16 3:57 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: What's a better use of money, a $30,000 car that gets 32mpg or a $3,000 truck that gets 13mpg?

But you're saving the planet!

81cpcamaro
81cpcamaro Dork
11/30/16 3:59 p.m.

My motorcycle gets 45 mpg, so no problem.

92dxman
92dxman SuperDork
11/30/16 3:59 p.m.

Mrs. DX's Jetta is probably in the 25-30 mpg range and my CX-5 is 30-34 mpg consistent so no complaints

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy PowerDork
11/30/16 4:04 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: what's nice for us is once it hits that magic $55/barrel the shale stuff in ND is good to go profit wise and we'll see us production increase.

We sell hoses and gaskets to the refineries - when ND and Houston are booming it is great for us - when gas is $4/gallon we are all happy at work.

I sell parts to the Class I Railroads - when BNSF and the other railroads have to move a lot of oil by rail we really benefit.

The0retical
The0retical Dork
11/30/16 4:09 p.m.

If I get anywhere around 30mpg (and the MS3 will) I could literally care less. Especially if I paid a song for the vehicle.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
11/30/16 4:10 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: What's a better use of money, a $30,000 car that gets 32mpg or a $3,000 truck that gets 13mpg?

Depends. How much are you driving? How much are repairs on the $3k truck? How much is gas? If you're driving 30-40k miles per year with minimum maintenance it's going to save you long term.

At 30k miles per year, you're talking about $6900 in gas for that 13mpg truck compared to the $2800 for the 32mpg car. That's $4100, or 6 years to make up the difference. Keep that car for 10 years and it puts an extra $14k into your pocket. At $4/gallon that jumps to $5500 per year, drops it to just under 5 years to make the difference up leaving 5 years to put an additional $27k in the bank.

Bump that to 40k/year, those number jump to $5500/year at $3/gal(5 years, additional 27k), and $7200 at $4/gal (4 years, $43k).

Now, if you see less than 10K MILES per year, and you like a new car every few years, this means nothing. Then again, that means you're letting your emotions control your purchases and not your brain.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
11/30/16 4:11 p.m.
Datsun310Guy wrote:
Bobzilla wrote: what's nice for us is once it hits that magic $55/barrel the shale stuff in ND is good to go profit wise and we'll see us production increase.
We sell hoses and gaskets to the refineries - when ND and Houston are booming it is great for us - when gas is $4/gallon we are all happy at work. I sell parts to the Class I Railroads - when BNSF and the other railroads have to move a lot of oil by rail we really benefit.

I do their oil analysis for the rigs. One of our customers had shut down 5500 of their 6200 rigs. Believe me, for the business we could use the higher oil prices.

fidelity101
fidelity101 SuperDork
11/30/16 4:24 p.m.
MattW wrote: Lincoln Navigator and a Ford E150 Conversion van.

3 rotary cars and a suburban. I can relate...

mazdeuce
mazdeuce UltimaDork
11/30/16 4:30 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

I had my Mazda2 when gas was over $4. I saved enough each month on gas over my truck to make the payment. It was kind of cool to do the math.

Dave
Dave Reader
11/30/16 4:31 p.m.
drdisque wrote:
Dave wrote: I've got a Mazda 2 so I'll all set. Of course that is balanced out by the wife's F150.
Unless you drive the Mazda2 on the highway - just did a long road trip with a cargo carrier on top for the stroller (since it takes up the entire trunk). averaged about 25 mpg at 75 mpg. It's an automatic (wife's car) and wouldn't hold 4th on any sort of upward slope due to all the aero drag. Of course it was fine at 70 mph, but driving that slow on open highway just seemed dreadful.

Mine is a 5spd but it is still geared pretty short. Mine is 95% in city driving.

I sure wouldn't want to put a cargo carrier on top. I can even feel the performance drop each time you add a passenger!

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