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SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/8/23 1:19 p.m.

2013 F150 5.0L

I parked the truck in a hotel parking lot last night around 5PM. Got in it at noon today and it cranked, but no start.
 

Lifted the hood, checked the fuse block and couldn't find anything wrong. Couldn't find the fuel pump fuse. Did a little YouTubing.  Seemed like it should be simple, but something wasn't right. 
 

Didn't have any testing tools with me, so I walked a mile to the parts store and bought some fuses and an electrical tester. 
 

Got back to the truck, and stuck a 20A fuse in the empty slot where the internetz said the fuel pump fuse should be, and it started right up. 
 

The fuse was MISSING. Not blown, not loose. MISSING.  
 

The only thing I can think is that someone actually swiped my fuel pump fuse.  From under the hood, with the cab locked. And left all the valuables alone in the truck. 
 

That's crazy. WTF??

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) MegaDork
9/8/23 1:28 p.m.

Mice.

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
9/8/23 1:29 p.m.
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) said:

Mice.

Mice only steal 15 amp fuses.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/8/23 1:36 p.m.
L5wolvesf said:
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) said:

Mice.

Mice only steal 15 amp fuses.

Only small mice steal 15's. Big mice still 20's and Rats I hear take the large block fuses.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
9/8/23 1:53 p.m.
L5wolvesf said:
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) said:

Mice.

Mice only steal 15 amp fuses.

That has to make "say what" .   That's funny.

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
9/8/23 1:53 p.m.
bobzilla said:
L5wolvesf said:
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) said:

Mice.

Mice only steal 15 amp fuses.

Only small mice steal 15's. Big mice still 20's and Rats I hear take the large block fuses.

We don't have small mice in AZ. Rats are totally into circuit breakers. 

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ SuperDork
9/8/23 2:12 p.m.

Are you confused?  There is currently no reason to get amped up over it.  

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
9/8/23 2:30 p.m.

It was me

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
9/8/23 2:43 p.m.

Piss anyone off between 5 PM & noon?

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
9/8/23 2:47 p.m.

Coworker?

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/8/23 2:51 p.m.

In reply to 914Driver :

Nope. I was in my room, watched a couple movies, did some paperwork. 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/8/23 2:53 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Don't see how. Out of the 200 or so people on this job, only 2 or 3 even know my name. Haven't pissed anyone off. 

MiniDave
MiniDave HalfDork
9/8/23 4:26 p.m.

Did you forget you took it out to keep someone from stealing your truck?

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/8/23 4:28 p.m.
SV reX said:

In reply to John Welsh :

Don't see how. Out of the 200 or so people on this job, only 2 or 3 even know my name. Haven't pissed anyone off. 

What about the mice. Set out any traps lately?

JoeTR6
JoeTR6 Dork
9/8/23 4:32 p.m.

Because locking a TR6 is pretty useless, I used to take the rotor with me when at a hotel.  One time I forgot, and had a crank/no start situation for about a minute.  I doubt you would have forgotten taking your own fuse, though.

ToManyProjects
ToManyProjects Reader
9/8/23 4:37 p.m.

Weird birthday prank by someone?

Wasn't someone talking about going to Ga to get away with stuff recently?

(And because the internet is bad at recognizing a joke, I'll point out that the above is tongue in cheek)

 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/8/23 4:39 p.m.

In reply to ToManyProjects :

It actually was my birthday. 
 

But no one knew it. 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr PowerDork
9/8/23 4:42 p.m.

I was bringing it right back!  Sorry.

Rramirez
Rramirez New Reader
9/8/23 5:32 p.m.

Search fuse 27. The factory fuel pump fuse is common to burn out so if your truck has the fuse 27 relocation kit (ford actually produce these kits because failure was so common) then there wouldn't have been a fuse in the factory spot. Also I've never heard of the relocation kit failing. 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/8/23 5:34 p.m.

In reply to Rramirez :

So, another fuse would have been installed in a different location than fuse 27?  Why would installing a new fuse in 27 work?

Rramirez
Rramirez New Reader
9/8/23 5:38 p.m.

In reply to SV reX :

I've done a couple trucks and I'd recall correctly the instructions tell you to cut the wire from the original fuse location and reroute. But I could see someone tapping into the wires instead of cutting and soldering which would effectively leave the fuse in the spot working as well. If you look up the kit instructions you can see if there is a new fuse in a location that would have been blank from factory. It is a much larger fuse than the factory blade 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/8/23 5:45 p.m.

In reply to Rramirez :

Hmm... that's a possible solution

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
9/8/23 6:21 p.m.

So, could it be that the fuse in either place makes the fuel pump work?   Test this by moving the fuse back to the other location.  

I suspect that you have never looked at the fuel pump fuse before this so you have no way to confirm if the fuse was in the right place previously.  

Could you have a fuel pump that is intermittently failing?  

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/8/23 6:42 p.m.

Also maybe the dust level can tell you if it looks like a fuse was recently in a slot or not?

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones SuperDork
9/8/23 6:47 p.m.

I don't want to give anything away, but well played Frenchy. Long drive to GA in your truck, but well done. 

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