codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
2/22/22 12:25 p.m.

Anyone familiar with the P2201 code on a 6.7L PowerStroke?  My tow rig (2021 F-250) threw this at me this morning.  It's under warranty, but I doubt I can get them to look at it before I'm supposed to head to the track on Thursday morning.  Anyone know if it's safe to tow my trailer 400-ish mile (total distance) with this code?

Searching the Ford forums is pretty useless, all the responses I can see to it are "it's just emissions, delete it".

 

gearheadE30
gearheadE30 Dork
2/22/22 12:33 p.m.

I am not sure about Ford's derate strategy, but because that's an emissions fault, it would not surprise me if you eventually start getting into inducements and eventually get a speed derate, probably before you make it 400 miles. I would say unlikely to do any damage but getting idle locked or whatever Ford does for final inducement would really suck on a road trip.

STM317
STM317 UberDork
2/22/22 1:04 p.m.

^^ Agreed. Derate seems likely to me eventually.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
2/22/22 1:09 p.m.

Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about.  I don't want to be stuck on the side of a freeway out of cell coverage with a truck that won't go anywhere and a trailer with a race car in it.  That was the whole point to buying a NEW truck with a warranty, sigh.

Managed to find a Ford dealer who will look at it today -- fingers crossed!

 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
2/22/22 1:14 p.m.

I wish I could help, but I know nothing about our diesels....

But WRT the "delete it"- it's just a sensor, so if it's taken out, the error will always be there.  So how is that different than ignoring it?  If the truck will survive w/o the sensor, then it should be capable of doing a weekend of towing.  (I know about the sensor- and have played with them on a gas engine- it's essentially an O2 sensor that works a little differently)

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
2/22/22 1:56 p.m.
alfadriver said:

I wish I could help, but I know nothing about our diesels....

But WRT the "delete it"- it's just a sensor, so if it's taken out, the error will always be there.  So how is that different than ignoring it?  If the truck will survive w/o the sensor, then it should be capable of doing a weekend of towing.  (I know about the sensor- and have played with them on a gas engine- it's essentially an O2 sensor that works a little differently)

By "delete it" they mean the various emissions defeat kits that are available for many recent diesels out there that remove the particulate filter, DEF system, etc.  The truck is specifically designed to detect tampering with the emissions system and refuse to run, so it's not as simple as just removing stuff, you need to modify stuff in the computer.

I'm not interested in that, even ignoring the legality question it's not really viable where I live in California.

 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/22/22 8:26 p.m.

Heck, it's not viable in PA anymore either.  Hardcore crackdown on that stuff these days.

Fix it.  No question for me.  Rent a truck for the weekend if you have to.  If you keep driving it and mess up the DPF, all the dealer has to do is look to see how long the code was on and they have a fair argument for pretty much voiding the warranty on anything vaguely related to the exhaust/emissions.

Plus, yeah... it won't be long until you get the "reduced engine power" dash readout and you'll be stuck 200 miles away trying to limp home at 35 mph.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
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2/23/22 11:44 a.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

Fix it.  No question for me.  Rent a truck for the weekend if you have to.  If you keep driving it and mess up the DPF, all the dealer has to do is look to see how long the code was on and they have a fair argument for pretty much voiding the warranty on anything vaguely related to the exhaust/emissions.

Plus, yeah... it won't be long until you get the "reduced engine power" dash readout and you'll be stuck 200 miles away trying to limp home at 35 mph.

It's not really possible to rent a truck to tow with -- none of the consumer rental agencies allow it in their contracts.  Enterprise Commercial does, but from what I have been told  you need to reserve those in advance (at least around here).

The dealer took the truck into their service dept yesterday, but said they probably can't look at it until tomorrow morning at the earliest.  As I expected the service advisor agreed that it wasn't a good idea to ignore the CEL for this weekend.  Apparently he's a former SCCA racer so maybe he can pull some strings and get the truck out sooner. :)

 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
2/23/22 2:29 p.m.

Woohoo, the dealer just called, apparently the sensor hardware is fine and it just needed a software update.

 

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