A hybrid 911? It’s not just a possibility, it’s a reality.
“For the first time in our icon’s 61-year history, we are installing a hybrid drive system in a roadgoing 911,” said Frank Moser, vice president of the 911 and 718 model lines.
Moser also notes that Po…
I guess it was only a matter of time before the 911 got fitted with an electric helper.
Don't quote me on it, but, the way the press release is worded, it sounds like this hybrid version will be sold alongside a non-hybrid version.
I cant fathom them making it any faster. The Turbo is already eye watering quick....now add off the line boost from an electric motor.
kevinatfms said:I cant fathom them making it any faster. The Turbo is already eye watering quick....now add off the line boost from an electric motor.
Bergmeister, the test driver at the 'ring, also had this to say:
We have more grip, significantly more power, and the spontaneous response of the performance hybrid is a great advantage.
I had thought this had already been done.
Expect more performance-oriented cars with hybrids. Just saying. 
They had the 919 race car a few years ago , it was amazing fast when they ran it at Rennsport ,
I am sure they learned a lot from that and this car will be OMG fast !
kevinatfms said:I cant fathom them making it any faster. The Turbo is already eye watering quick....now add off the line boost from an electric motor.
The Base S model was reported as faster then a 997.2 GT3 RS at the ring. Not trying to start a fight but that is too fast for a street car. Like why would you buy a Turbo or Touring if you cannot use 50% of the throttle already outside of the track.
I can't wait to see it and hopefully get behind the wheel. They already have other performance hybrids and electric, so why not the 911? It's widely expected the 718 replacement will be hybrid.
Porsche isn't alone. The Ferrari 296 can run a sub 10 second quarter mile right from the factory. The mid-range thrust is never ending and mind blowing. It still has all the sounds and feel of ICE, just adds the silent assassin of electric thrust.
While I don't like the extra weight, the performance increase is hard to ignore.
wearymicrobe said:kevinatfms said:I cant fathom them making it any faster. The Turbo is already eye watering quick....now add off the line boost from an electric motor.
The Base S model was reported as faster then a 997.2 GT3 RS at the ring. Not trying to start a fight but that is too fast for a street car. Like why would you buy a Turbo or Touring if you cannot use 50% of the throttle already outside of the track.
20 years ago I would not have understood this sentiment. 10 years ago I owned a turbocharged Hayabusa and realized that there can be such a thing as too much.
Even now I still make that mistake. I had a perfectly good C7 Stingray; with E85 and a mild tune it made about 450 whp. For some reason I thought that wasn't enough so I bought a Z06. Now there's nowhere at all that I can use full power except a track, and on the track it eats $2,000 worth of Sport Cup 2s every day.
Weirdly, more power has led to more frustration. This is something I didn't quite grok beforehand.
We live in an era when the street versions of the race cars in IMSA (and it's international counterparts) make more horsepower than the GT3-spec cars we can watch on track that are based on those street cars. A number of street cars make more hp than even the GTP cars, which if I recall correctly, are limited to a total output of 671hp.
The need to produce less horsepower for professional track racing is something I wouldn't have predicted years ago.
And to me, it lends some credence to the point of having "too much horsepower for the road"... unless anyone here has the last name of Auberlin, Pruett, Kendall, etc.
I will allow that "too much horsepower" (combined with too little sense) makes for some good smdh YouTube "Leaving Cars and Coffee" videos, though.
brandonsmash said:Weirdly, more power has led to more frustration.
wearymicrobe said:kevinatfms said:I cant fathom them making it any faster. The Turbo is already eye watering quick....now add off the line boost from an electric motor.
The Base S model was reported as faster then a 997.2 GT3 RS at the ring. Not trying to start a fight but that is too fast for a street car. Like why would you buy a Turbo or Touring if you cannot use 50% of the throttle already outside of the track.
But isn't that old news? For your average windy road I'm quite happy with a compact 250 HP car. Using a supercar anywhere but the track or an open stretch of smooth highway is like asking a weightlifter to sort paper clips.
wearymicrobe said:kevinatfms said:I cant fathom them making it any faster. The Turbo is already eye watering quick....now add off the line boost from an electric motor.
The Base S model was reported as faster then a 997.2 GT3 RS at the ring. Not trying to start a fight but that is too fast for a street car. Like why would you buy a Turbo or Touring if you cannot use 50% of the throttle already outside of the track.
This is precisely why I got a new BRZ vs buying something used that is faster.
It's gets annoying not being able to go full throttle anywhere without almost instantly getting to "right to jail" speeds.
In reply to brandonsmash :
Sportbikes are seeing a resurgence of 400cc bikes. An R1 does 100mph in first gear.......hard to enjoy on the road.
As for track day stuff give me a light medium horsepower car every time. Fast enough to be fun but easy on consumables.
Back to the hybrid 911; I think the extra grunt would make it nice coming of low speed corners.
In reply to Tom1200 :
Those small-displacement sport bikes look like an absolute riot. That being said, I do own rather an impractical "A to A" bike. I said for years that Ducati should bring back the Streetfighter but with the Panigale V4 engine and if such a thing existed I would buy one. Well they did, so I did. It's around 200whp and is absolutely bonkers above 6k rpm but I still love it even though it is definitely overpowered.
"+1" on the 400 class. I've been watching Utube content for the Triumph 400 bikes, especially the Scrambler 400 X. Priced at $6K it's almost a "why not?" proposition. And the Speed 400 is a thousand less.
brandonsmash said:In reply to Tom1200 :
Those small-displacement sport bikes look like an absolute riot. That being said, I do own rather an impractical "A to A" bike. I said for years that Ducati should bring back the Streetfighter but with the Panigale V4 engine and if such a thing existed I would buy one. Well they did, so I did. It's around 200whp and is absolutely bonkers above 6k rpm but I still love it even though it is definitely overpowered.
Between your corvette and your bikes I think we are twins. I loved the V4 when it launched and said if they ever did a SL StreetFighter I would jump so I did. Same thing 220hp give or take with my tune and mods, but surprisingly practical under 7K RPM.
Oh those bikes are heartachingly beautiful.
I was able to make a deal with the better half. Get my weight down to wear it needs to be, get the BRZ paid off, I get to get a streetfighter style bike and she gets another scooter if she wants.
My 17 Cayenne e-hybrid is pretty great. Can't imagine how much farther they've taken the tech since. I'd 100% consider one- the extra weight very low may be good for everything but the crazy tire wear that physics demands.
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