A friend of mine recently bought the above mentioned MB from a neighbor and is willing to sell it to me for what he has in it, ie cheap. The only reason it intrigues me is the manual, and that I like the way they look. Its got @84K miles on it, no rust that I can find underneath or on the body. Are there any "gotchas" with these? Thanks
In reply to Aaron_King :
Is it running? If the battery has been dead for 2-3 months minimum, you're gonna need more than just a jump start/new battery. You'll need some MB specific software re-boot.
It's running, drove it all weekend. Our R class is an 06 so I expect some of the same, just wanted to know if there are any gotchas.
Are we talking the 2 door hatch version? These got pretty low grade reviews when new due to much cost cutting that left the car feeling cheap.
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EvanB
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12/19/22 8:16 p.m.
In reply to John Welsh :
But now that they are actually cheap, is that really an issue?
I would definitely buy one for the right price, especially with a manual and the cloth interior. The only issue I know of them is the body can rust in weird ways but I haven't done much research into the mechanicals.
From zero experience beyond researching the interwebs in the past on this car. I think some consensus is first year 2002 with the 2.3 is least desirable. Following years have smaller but better motor. Mild redesign in 2005 is peak.
I would rock the hatchback.
Unfortunately it's a sedan. But since it's a Sport it's got bigger front brakes, lower and slightly stiffer suspension and leather interior. The big draw for me is the 6 speed and the $2600 price. Biggest downsides are 80 or so less hp than my current DD but after driving SAABs for 20 plus years it's a nice change.
I love the dimensions of the sport sedan. Like an updated 190e (which is also a good looker)
I think these sport version have staggered tires with the rears being larger. If the tires aren't larger at least the rims are wider in the rear (I think.)
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In reply to Aaron_King :
Hard to go wrong for $2600 if it runs.
Yeah, at a certain price, not much to lose.
IIRC the deal with those manual C-classes is that the manual gearbox is not particularly well-liked (just not as great of an experience as you'd want) and a specific range of years had some kind of expensive/potentially fatal engine issue (but maybe that was the V6?).
I seem to recall the consensus being that they are interesting but a BMW is better at just about everything everything except being a Benz.
In addition to the above, I'm led to believe that the C180-C230 of those years had a lot of premature timing chain failures, not sure how much of it is internet scare-stories though. I sure found a lot of those stories when I was researching though. A good friend of mine was editor of a specialist Mercedes mag, and she specifically warned me off that model of C class due to generally bad build quality (not sure if it was bad-bad, or bad-for-a-Mercedes).
pointofdeparture said:
Yeah, at a certain price, not much to lose.
IIRC the deal with those manual C-classes is that the manual gearbox is not particularly well-liked (just not as great of an experience as you'd want) and a specific range of years had some kind of expensive/potentially fatal engine issue (but maybe that was the V6?).
I seem to recall the consensus being that they are interesting but a BMW is better at just about everything everything except being a Benz.
I'm not sure where the transmission hate comes from. I had one of these about 10 years ago and the transmission was fine.
A lot of people claim Hondas have the best manuals but I'd struggle to find a difference between the Mercedes manual and any Honda manual I've driven.
I ended up buying the car, just too good a deal to pass up. The trans is not as smooth as my SAAB but it's not at all bad. Aside from the AC, which didn't work when I got it, everything works and have not had any issues at all. It just about to turn 100k miles and really does drive like a new car. The timing chain thing is a little scary, but I let it warm all the way up before beating on it so fingers crossed.
Last Saturday I took the car back road driving in eastern Ohio and I was impressed with the handling and braking.
If you want to pass it on I'll be your huckleberry lol.