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mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
3/25/12 10:33 p.m.

very true about the Hot Hatch market.. if not for the GTI.. would we have had the BMW 318ti (granted. there WAS a 2002 Touring)., the Civic and Integra Type S and R, or even Mazda 323X?

hotrodlarry
hotrodlarry HalfDork
3/25/12 10:35 p.m.

vee-dub

Grizz
Grizz Dork
3/25/12 10:39 p.m.

In reply to mad_machine:

Probably. There's always been small performers sold to the cheap asses out there.

If VW hadn't thought to put more power and suspension into a fwd turd someone else would have.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer SuperDork
3/25/12 10:46 p.m.

Datsun please.

Classic three box shape, like an E30 or the Sentra SE-R I just picked up.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
3/25/12 10:48 p.m.

well.. it's funny. If you read the history of the GTI.. VW didn't design it. . VW didn't even want to build it, the GTI was a private project done by some of their engineers that just happened to capture the imagination of the right people at the right time and demand forced VW to build what would be one of their best and most profitable products

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy HalfDork
3/26/12 11:13 a.m.
Keith wrote: Meanwhile, the 510 was just a sedan that could be made fast on the racetrack.

here is where you are wrong... fully independent suspension is NOT... just a sedan....

especially for 1968!!!!

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
3/26/12 11:15 a.m.

GTi

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Dork
3/26/12 11:22 a.m.

I've owned both, and I'd take a 510 over the GTI, condition being equal.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
3/26/12 1:14 p.m.

I'm a watercooled VW guy, and I'm voting 510. Wish I could find one..

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
3/27/12 9:09 a.m.

This fight has come to an end. The loser was pummeled to a bloody heap on the canvass and needed to be carried out of the ring on a stretcher and taken directly to the hospital.

510 for the win!

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