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N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltraDork
4/2/12 11:47 a.m.
mmosbey wrote: I've seen a few wagon swaps. That looks nice.

I would rock that.

benzbaron
benzbaron Dork
4/2/12 11:48 a.m.

One of the cooler mercedes swaps I've seen online was an SHO into a mercedes 380sl with a skipped timing chain. That looks like a cool engine.

Grizz
Grizz Dork
4/2/12 11:58 a.m.

In reply to bigbens6:

I'd rather have a 330hp Hyundai that weighed much less to get 30% better mileage. 200 in a car that apparently needs 330 for mid range go fast wouldn't get great mpg I'd imagine.

Other than that, 230 in my truck was a serious upgrade in power for 93, but now a base model v6 Ram has more. And yes, I've wondered if the new v6 or the 390hp v8 would get better mileage in my vehicle.

Jay_W
Jay_W Dork
4/2/12 12:04 p.m.

I looked into that motor as a swap candidate, but way too many SHO forums had people talking about how the cam gears are just sorta pressed onto the cams, and then the cam gets expanded like with a exhaust tube flanger and they expected the gears to stay put but they often didn't. Then I came to my senses and didn't try to swap that particular car at all.

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
4/2/12 12:16 p.m.

all u ha to do wes weld the cam gear on.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan Dork
4/2/12 12:20 p.m.
Jay_W wrote: I looked into that motor as a swap candidate, but way too many SHO forums had people talking about how the cam gears are just sorta pressed onto the cams, and then the cam gets expanded like with a exhaust tube flanger and they expected the gears to stay put but they often didn't. Then I came to my senses and didn't try to swap that particular car at all.

That problem was specific to the V8s.

RossD
RossD UltraDork
4/2/12 12:29 p.m.

Find a 3.0 Ranger's 5 speed and see if you can make a hybrid thunderbird M5OD to get the shifter in the right spot. Or just a shifter extender.

Max_Archer
Max_Archer New Reader
4/2/12 2:10 p.m.

They still make 'em the old way once in a while. I'm pretty happy living in 1986 again with my 100HP 2300lb brand new Mazda.

stanger_missle
stanger_missle New Reader
4/2/12 2:19 p.m.

A few years ago (like 8), my buddy and I had a grand notion to swap that engine into his 99 V6 Mustang. We found one in the junkyard that had been rear ended but we didn't have enough time to pull the engine out before the yard closed. Went back the next day and they had crushed the car! Good thing they had a dozen old Chevy trucks that were pretty much frames still sitting there for years. Idiots...

That killed that idea...

turboswede
turboswede PowerDork
4/2/12 3:16 p.m.

Huh. 220hp you say?

The Spirit and IROC R/T's with the DOHC, turbo and intercooled 4-cylinder produced 224hp during the same period of time.

I'm not impressed with the SHO from a overall power output standpoint, but from the change in direction that Ford took to make it into production with it. Especially in something so pedestrian. They also make beautiful noises :)

An SHO-powered Mustang (or re-born Thunderbird SPORTS CAR to go after the Corvette as it was originally envisioned to do) would have been awesome and potentially something that could sell if done properly.

Instead, moar of the same for the Mustang and the T-bird was a less useful Lincoln luxo barge for all intents and purposes.

Moparman
Moparman HalfDork
4/2/12 3:46 p.m.

Performance really dropped in the late 1970s / early 1980s. The following are specs for the 1976 Corvette 350 C.I.D. witrh a four speed:

1976 Chevrolet Corvette C3 Specifications

Price

$7,600

Weight

3610 lbs | 1637.468 kg Performance 0-60 mph 8.1 seconds. 1/4 Mile

16.5 seconds @ 87.0 MPH seconds.

Engine Type : V8 5735 cc | 350.0 cu in. | 5.7 L. 180 HP (132.48 KW) @ 4000 RPM 270 Ft-Lbs (366 NM) @ 2400 RPM Bore : 4.0 in | 102 mm. Stroke : 3.5 in | 88 mm.

This is slower than my 1999 Neon when it was bone stock. However, the Vette was prettier while being slow.

Jay_W
Jay_W Dork
4/2/12 5:23 p.m.

Only the v8's? Ah so. Well, I ain't in a position to do that project anyhow. Now I wanna save pennies for a clean dead 966 and an 4ltr audi 8banger...

Vigo
Vigo SuperDork
4/2/12 8:52 p.m.

I convinced a friend to buy a broken V8 SHO as a motor swap donor before we knew what to put it in.

Right now he is considering a 60's italian roadster, whatever comes along cheap-ish.

Although i have tried to talk him into putting it in a Metropolitan.

darkbuddha
darkbuddha Reader
4/2/12 10:19 p.m.

There's one on local craigslist for $500. It needs a ton of work, but it runs and drives. I'm damn tempted... mainly to put the motor in my father's OSI, or until I can find a cheap first gen Lotus Esprit and do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJfVCCMj6xU

BTW...

singleslammer wrote:
pres589 wrote: I like the idea of putting that engine in something else like an XR4Ti or Capri, that sort of thing.
I had not thought of an xr4ti. Hmm....

It's been done... with a pair of turbos in tow:

Vigo
Vigo SuperDork
4/3/12 7:03 p.m.

And i would like to point out that turbo SHO motors seem to have a hard time making less than 400whp.

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