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SilverFleet
SilverFleet UberDork
12/2/16 10:14 a.m.

Looks like Roadkill is getting in on the budget racing scene:

http://www.roadkill.com/come-to-the-first-ever-roadkill-zip-tie-drags-at-tucson-dragway-jan-14-2017/

Roadkill said: Come To The First Ever Roadkill Zip-Tie Drags At Tucson Dragway, Jan 14, 2017 Remember when we said save the date for January 14, 2017? Hopefully you did, because this is not going to be something you want to miss. On January 14, 2017 at Tucson Dragway in Tucson, Arizona, we’re gonna be racing and hanging out talking cars. You should join us. We even finally named the event, with help from all of you. 2017 Roadkill Zip-Tie Drags Tucson Dragway 12000 S Houghton Rd, Tucson, AZ 85747 All that’s great, right? There’s more. So much more. This much more: Friday, January 13 Here’s the rough plan. It’s likely to go wrong. Early in the morning we will meetup at the HOT ROD and Roadkill shop in El Segundo, California. We’ll have donuts and t-shirts and maybe even maps with where we are going. Once all the Roadkill cars are road worthy (heh), we’ll set out for Arizona. Maybe we’ll stop for lunch on the way. For sure we’ll stop because something breaks. You don’t have to stop. No really, go ahead, we’ll catch up. We’ll end up at Tucson Dragway in the evening, and you can camp at the track or just hang out for a bit. We want to have a campfire, but maybe we’ll just roast marshmallows over whichever Roadkill pile has an electrical short. Oh yeah, Tucson Dragway has a test-n-tune on Friday nights, so anything that’s still running after the drive can make some passes. Saturday, January 14 We have activities planned! Swap meet – sell stuff! Buy stuff! T-shirts – So many designs! Drag Racing – Because, duh, racetrack. Race your car. Car Show – In case it stops running Autographs and Q&A with Freiburger and Finnegan Race F&F Lottery – Try for a chance to drag race against a Roadkill car (The likelihood of you winning is high.) Roadkill Exhibition Runs (Our junk is going to break) Our first $3,000 Hooptie Challenge. This is a race where Roadkill decides if a car has been built for less than $3,000 or not. The accepted cars run hot laps, heads up. Winners return to lanes until a winner has been determined. There’s bound to be fighting. Burnouts and Awards! Everyone go home now. Doesn’t that sound like fun? It’s not even that much money, ‘cause we know you’re poor. *Children 12 & under are FREE * Category NOTE: Prices are not final and may be adjusted during the registration process. Participant TWO-DAY, Includes: Camping, Test & Tune, Racing & 1 Participant ($40.00) Participant SATURDAY ONLY, Includes: Racing & 1 Participant ($30.00) Swap Meet TWO-DAY, Includes: Camping & All-day Saturday & 1 Spectator ($35.00) Swap Meet SATURDAY ONLY, Includes: All-Day Saturday & 1 Spectator ($20.00) Car Show TWO-DAY, Includes: Camping & All-day Saturday & 1 Spectator ($35.00) Car Show SATURDAY ONLY, Includes: All-Day Saturday & 1 Spectator ($20.00) Spectator TWO-DAY, Includes: Camping & 1 Spectator ($15.00) Spectator SATURDAY ONLY, Includes: 1 Spectator ($10.00) What are your questions? We will answer them.

There doesn't seem to be a real rule set of any kind, just that they will judge your car as $3000 or less. It involves a road trip from their shop to the track, which sounds cool. Looks a lot less informal than most budget-type events.

gearheadmb
gearheadmb Dork
12/2/16 10:27 a.m.

Sounds cheap and fun. Wrong corner of the country for me, if they did one closer to home it would be a definite possibility. The downside is when they've covered their other events they seem to be overran with thousands of obsessed fanbois. That would harsh the mellow for me.

singleslammer
singleslammer PowerDork
12/2/16 10:41 a.m.

There is something really similar in OK City in January.

http://www.okthunder.com/junkyard-wars.html

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
12/2/16 11:02 a.m.

Oh, what they have gotten themselves into...

See in the comments section of their website the following discourse:

Devin says:
November 30, 2016 at 7:07 am
My question is tech. What do we need to pass? Assuming that my junk isn’t THAT fast, what equipment must be installed and what holes must be filled? I need to know how much money I have to spend on go faster parts vs. fix stuff parts.
Also, does safety equipment count towards the 3k hooptie challenge? You know like tires, seats, brakes, other shenanigans.

Elana Scherr says:
November 30, 2016 at 9:52 am
We’ll put together a more detailed list, but right now it looks like you will have to pass a safety tech, so, seatbelts, nothing loose, no visible holes in the floor/firewall. I would assume safety equipment does not count towards the $3000 cap, but don’t quote me on that yet.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
12/2/16 11:13 a.m.

Could be a licensing opportunity for GRM to license off the use of their 16 year honed rules set.
Is the GRM rule set copyrighted?
It should be.

With the answer Elana gave of, "I would assume safety doesn't count toward budget...but don't quote me.." You can tell that she hasn't even given the slightest thought toward what questions and variations are bound to come up.
Way over her head.

Stampie
Stampie Dork
12/2/16 1:00 p.m.

Let a few of us show up and they'll a have a hard bound rule book the next year.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse Dork
12/2/16 3:18 p.m.

I'm down. Talking to the wife tonight after work. I'd love Arizona in January. Not too hot, but warmer than where I love.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
12/2/16 3:21 p.m.
Stampie wrote: Let a few of us show up and they'll a have a hard bound rule book the next year.

Or Andy Nelson shows up and makes everyone his bitch. He goes back 10s on 2 grand. I can only imagine what he'd do with another thousand bucks.

ckosacranoid
ckosacranoid Dork
12/2/16 3:32 p.m.

should we start the fund for andy to show up and show everyone how to smoke things for 2k?

HappyAndy
HappyAndy PowerDork
12/2/16 3:34 p.m.

A convoy of the GRM challenge's greatest and/or most infamous drag cars needs to show up at this event. Is the Scaries still around? That would blow some minds.

Obviously anything built by the Nelsons would be a front runner. What are some of the other outstanding drag cars from challenge history, especially the ones that people don't generally think of as real fast?

Robbie
Robbie UltraDork
12/2/16 3:38 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote: A convoy of the GRM challenge's greatest and/or most infamous drag cars needs to show up at this event. Is the Scaries still around? That would blow some minds. Obviously anything built by the Nelsons would be a front runner. What are some of the other outstanding drag cars from challenge history, especially the ones that people don't generally think of as real fast?

I wonder if challenge cars would even be allowed to run. These are $3000 cars as viewed by the judges, which I interpret to mean "worth $3000 when they hit the track". Lots of fast challenge cars may have been bought for less but are probably worth more.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
12/2/16 3:54 p.m.

In reply to Robbie:

At this point its all speculation. They (Roadkill's writer, Elana) can not even define if tires or safety items are exempt. That could be as much as a $2k variable. From there, they haven't even confronted recouped and fmv.

Robbie
Robbie UltraDork
12/2/16 3:58 p.m.

In reply to JohnRW1621:

agree - I was just trying to show that I can see a completely different interpretation of $3000 car

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
12/2/16 4:02 p.m.

In reply to Robbie:

Yep. And the event is 45 days away.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
12/2/16 4:33 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
Stampie wrote: Let a few of us show up and they'll a have a hard bound rule book the next year.
Or Andy Nelson shows up and makes everyone his bitch. He goes back 10s on 2 grand. I can only imagine what he'd do with another thousand bucks.

if it wasn't a whole country away i'd go drop some 10's on them too in their "hooptie challenge"

my challenge car is a torque converter swap away from it.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
12/2/16 4:37 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: Could be a licensing opportunity for GRM to license off the use of their 16 year honed rules set. Is the GRM rule set copyrighted? It should be. With the answer Elana gave of, "I would assume safety doesn't count toward budget...but don't quote me.." You can tell that she has even given the slightest thought toward what questions and variations are bound to come up. Way over her head.

I read those messages this morning with the exact same feeling I get when I see someone post on social media

"We just brought home our baby moluccan cockatoo! He's so cute! He's our first parrot and he's really calm and doesn't scream. He's going to be a wonderful boy forever!"

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
12/2/16 7:54 p.m.
ckosacranoid wrote: should we start the fund for andy to show up and show everyone how to smoke things for 2k?

I'd throw a few dollars at that fund.

noddaz
noddaz SuperDork
12/2/16 7:54 p.m.

Thread jack!

JG Pasterjak wrote: I read those messages this morning with the exact same feeling I get when I see someone post on social media "We just brought home our baby moluccan cockatoo! He's so cute! He's our first parrot and he's really calm and doesn't scream. He's going to be a wonderful boy forever!"

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!! I have one of those, and by the way it was my second Cockatoo... But I totally understand...

Sorry, back to the thread.

Take your Challenge Cars! Go west! And show them how it is done.

wheels777
wheels777 SuperDork
12/2/16 8:35 p.m.

We are trying to get some details. We are seriously thinking about this.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
12/2/16 8:37 p.m.
wheels777 wrote: We are trying to get some details. We are seriously thinking about this.

I was told "you are not going to arizona to drag race"

minivan_racer
minivan_racer UltraDork
12/2/16 9:07 p.m.
wheels777 wrote:
patgizz wrote:
wheels777 wrote: We are trying to get some details. We are seriously thinking about this.
I was told "you are not going to arizona to drag race"
Seeing how I only heard about this today and have only discussed it with my family, I question your source.

I also heard this. I think you should show up, budget book in hand just to prove them wrong.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
12/2/16 10:06 p.m.
wheels777 wrote:
patgizz wrote:
wheels777 wrote: We are trying to get some details. We are seriously thinking about this.
I was told "you are not going to arizona to drag race"
Seeing how I only heard about this today and have only discussed it with my family, I question your source.

No, that's what Carli told me about putting in a real converter and taking the datsun

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman HalfDork
12/2/16 10:58 p.m.

Sounds entertaining, it is one week too early for me to go . Should be fun just because roadkill.

Hmm, maybe I'd have time for a fly and drive

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
12/3/16 10:31 a.m.
wheels777 wrote:
minivan_racer wrote:
wheels777 wrote:
patgizz wrote:
wheels777 wrote: We are trying to get some details. We are seriously thinking about this.
I was told "you are not going to arizona to drag race"
Seeing how I only heard about this today and have only discussed it with my family, I question your source.
I also heard this. I think you should show up, budget book in hand just to prove them wrong.
We are discussing Bugzilla, the Coupe, the Fuzzybaker or the '17 car. We got to 'find' a bunch of cash first....and get a few answers back from RK.

Answer should be "any recent $20xx challenger should be eligible and not questioned on budget" kinda like the challenge rules crapcan clause

I wish we could take the top 5 challenge drag cars from this year and make heads explode

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
12/3/16 12:16 p.m.
RealMiniParker wrote:
ckosacranoid wrote: should we start the fund for andy to show up and show everyone how to smoke things for 2k?
I'd throw a few dollars at that fund.

I'd be happy to throw $100 at this idea of sending a Challenge car (Nelson or other.)

The dream scenario would to have one chartered semi headed East to West. Say Maryland to York, PA to Cleveland, OH to Van Vert, OH, etc, etc. Fill the car carrier on the way West then after the event, reverse the route.
Each competitors fills his car with a reasonable amount of spares and tools and at the event the entire semi-load shares the tools/parts.
Each competitor could then fly in and meet up with the cars, kick ass and then fly home.

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