Fitzauto
Fitzauto HalfDork
3/21/16 4:44 p.m.

So we found out today that my girlfriends 12a has at least 2 blown apex seals.

She wants to know if she should rebuild the 12a or find a 13b to swap in. Power goals are 175-220whp.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey PowerDork
3/21/16 4:51 p.m.

13B hands down

Fitzauto
Fitzauto HalfDork
3/21/16 4:57 p.m.

In reply to DaveEstey:

In particular reason?

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
3/21/16 5:00 p.m.

12As are essentially unrebuildable anymore. Most of the parts that are needed if you wait until it blows are NLA.

dropstep
dropstep Dork
3/21/16 5:35 p.m.

Yeah i know wear theres a pair of junk 12A's becausr the guy couldnt find parts anymore. Hes not going 13b but hes tired of tracking down 12A parts.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
3/21/16 6:07 p.m.

I went 13B about seven-eight years ago. 2mm seal rotors are simply better in every way and Mazda never made 2mm seal l2As, only 13Bs. The apex seals are more housing friendly and definitely more RPM friendly, side seals have less friction, 12 rotor gear pins vs. 9 pins makes the stresses on the gears a lot lower so you don't need the super awesome hardened stat gears or pinned/circlipped rotor gears... It's just a better situation all around.

RX Reven'
RX Reven' Dork
3/21/16 6:19 p.m.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
3/21/16 6:25 p.m.

Is there any good reason to pull a running 12a and sell it to go 13b? Mine works fine for now but I'm aware that if it breaks it's a coffee table.

Wall-e
Wall-e MegaDork
3/21/16 6:47 p.m.

In reply to RX Reven':

It was just ice cream.

Ross413
Ross413 Reader
3/21/16 7:57 p.m.

markwemple
markwemple Dork
3/21/16 8:11 p.m.

Don't want to read this. My spec class mandates a 12a.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey PowerDork
3/21/16 9:31 p.m.
mazdeuce wrote: Is there any good reason to pull a running 12a and sell it to go 13b? Mine works fine for now but I'm aware that if it breaks it's a coffee table.

IT7 guys are in full-on hoarding mode - so prices of running 12As are on the rise.

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