jr02518
New Reader
2/16/12 7:26 p.m.
Getting the car count up in today's world can only be helped by this new set of rules.
Our local SCCA region has embraced this concept to include groups for cars up to 1968, Historic 1 and 1969 to 1985, Historic 2.
The history of this can be found at;
http://forums.solo2.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=901
Yes, I have been trying to get this off the ground for a while.
http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/2012-racing/cscc-january-race/mg-08670485.html
David
In reply to jr02518:
There is a lot to be said for vintage or historic classes. My Neon is in the same class (FSP) as my 84 Charger. The Neon can run rings around the Charger.
Gimp wrote:
eastsidemav wrote:
Not a bad idea - I doubt tire costs will go down, but at least it'll be easier to drive to an event, air up the tires, compete, air down the tires, then drive home.
Is the SCCA reserving the right to disqualify individual models of tires? I seem to recall the TW rating is self-tested, so there might be some incentive on the tire company's part to claim a higher treadwear rating than is realistic.
Not if you compete. Make 140 tread wear required in stock class, and you will get guys (and I'll be one of them) who go out and buy a brand new set of street tires, shave them, trailer them to the race, take off the "normal" streets, mount the shaved stickers up, and race. Never mind probably having another set for rains.
I see no cost savings or ease.
If you want to be able to show up to an event, air up your street tires, race in stock class, air down and drive home, you can do that now. You just won't be competitive.
Make street tires required, and soon you'll get threads on internet forums about people who want to ban shaving street tires from stock, etc.
Many, many times, I've driven to an event on A6's or V710's, aired them up, raced in stock class and was top 5 in PAX in a competitive region, then aired down and went home.
I'll admit, I'm one of the people that use R-Comps in Stock class. When I first started I did what was suggested, ran cheap street tires while I learned. Then modded the car to be competetive to include an extra set of rims with R-comps and shot to near the top of the class. Not sure what this year as I need new R-comps but also modifying the car for the track. Daughter that shares the car is talking getting good street tires like Star Specs (the only ones that come in 14", R-S3 don't come in that size) while concentrating on modding the car for the track. Also realize that it means going from C-Stock to most likey CSP. Maybe STR before R-comps are in the picture. Do see the arguement about R-comps and stock class though. If you haven't figured it out, an NB Miata. Will most likely take out the RX8 more this year autocrossing, avoided it before because 18" tires ain't cheap. Can get a couple set of 14" for the Miata for the price of one set for the RX8. And the RX8 is not very competitive in STU with only Mazdaspeed springs installed that lowered the car some. Guess I'll have to get some good swaybars for it too. Maybe good shocks too. But that diverts $$ from setting up the Miata for track. Oh decisions, decisions.
mw
HalfDork
2/18/12 1:08 p.m.
If you haven't read, these new classes will not actually follow the stock class divisions. Instead there are only 3 classes. One for fwd, one for awd, and one rwd. I'm trying to figure out what the car to have will be in rtf (fwd class). I assume it would be one of the following: type r, cobalt ss, or cooper s. I need a new dd anyway, so maybe I could get something competitive (despite the fact that I'm not). I'm tired of driving a miata with no AC all the way to Nebraska.