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NOHOME
NOHOME HalfDork
1/28/12 6:33 a.m.

Are they available yet? Anyone get some seat time?

If the toyotabaru does not materialize, might have to find a plan B

eastsidemav
eastsidemav HalfDork
1/28/12 7:45 a.m.

The local Scion dealer has one available for test drives, but I think thats it. I'm going to check them out at the auto show in a month or so.

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
1/28/12 7:52 a.m.

The iQ is only available with a miserable CVT that absolutely sucks the life out of it. O-60 in 9.4 seconds is not my idea of fun.

Be patient. According to this, the FRS will be available in the spring. The Subaru version should also be out about then.

mmosbey
mmosbey Reader
1/28/12 7:54 a.m.

Yeah, my small town Toyota, Scion, Cadillac, GMC dealer has one sitting on the grass out front. Almost stopped to have a look, even pulled into the lot, but decided the five guys sitting out front on a bench looked too hungry to let me look in peace.

Yeah, I have serious tire-kicker guilt issues. I never drive anything I'm not in a position to buy, but somehow, even if I say I'm just curious, and just looking, I still leave feeling like I've somehow wronged the guy who would have just sat on a bench eating sunflower seeds.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
1/28/12 8:16 a.m.

I like the looks of them. Less goofy than the smart

mmosbey
mmosbey Reader
1/28/12 8:26 a.m.

Also, Aston Martin seems to like them:

mmosbey
mmosbey Reader
1/28/12 8:32 a.m.

Oh, wow. Ouch.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe HalfDork
1/28/12 9:54 a.m.

Is it wrong that I want a IQ with a cygnet body kit on it for a daily driver.

NOHOME
NOHOME HalfDork
1/28/12 10:56 a.m.

I want to think that it will handle like a go-cart. I have a bugeye sprite and even with an anemic 48 gophers under the hood it never fails to entertain while underway.

Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
1/28/12 1:32 p.m.

I sat in one today at a local car show. Made my old MR2 seem big

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
1/28/12 2:12 p.m.
mmosbey wrote: Oh, wow. Ouch.

Is there an engine in there?

singleslammer
singleslammer New Reader
1/28/12 2:20 p.m.

In reply to Grtechguy: That's because mr2s are large inside. -proad past mk2 and current mk3 owner

belteshazzar
belteshazzar SuperDork
1/28/12 2:48 p.m.
mad_machine wrote:
mmosbey wrote: Oh, wow. Ouch.
Is there an engine in there?

apparently this car runs on hoses

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
1/28/12 2:58 p.m.

Home Depot's Plumbing department has fewer hoses

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
1/28/12 3:03 p.m.
belteshazzar wrote: apparently this car runs on hoses

I hope I see that in "Say What?"

hrdlydangerous
hrdlydangerous Reader
1/28/12 3:13 p.m.

I just drove the first one that came in to my dealership. It's pretty roomy inside even for a 6'3" guy like me. It does killer u turns and is pretty fun to drive. Not fast but fun. 36mpg in the city too.

integraguy
integraguy SuperDork
1/28/12 5:00 p.m.

C&D has a mini test in the current issue, I think, and they didn't care for it. You have to really want a small car, that gets mileage numbers bigger cars beat, to buy one.

The British mag CAR says the iQ is an okay car (not bad or good) but they definitely recommend you avoid the CVT. Unfortunately, we don't have the transmission choice that the rest of the world has.

To me, at least with the CVT, they are about on par with the smart and it's funky automated manual transmission. That is, okay if you need a small car and don't really care how it drives...all the while getting lots of stares from passersby.

NOHOME
NOHOME HalfDork
1/28/12 5:06 p.m.

I agree with the cvt; wife's car has it and it ain't my cuppa.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku SuperDork
1/28/12 10:21 p.m.

I experienced laughter when I saw it at the autoshow.

integraguy
integraguy SuperDork
1/29/12 8:10 a.m.

I realize that Toyota wasn't looking to build that kind of car, but instead of building a 3 or 4 passenger BETTER smart, Toyota SHOULD have built a modern Honda CRX...or re-invented the original MR-2. I mean, imagine what it would have done for the company, if instead of trying to out-do smart or MINI (the "original" and the new version) Toyota had built a small car for 2 people to travel in style.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe HalfDork
1/29/12 10:44 a.m.
integraguy wrote: I realize that Toyota wasn't looking to build that kind of car, but instead of building a 3 or 4 passenger BETTER smart, Toyota SHOULD have built a modern Honda CRX...or re-invented the original MR-2. I mean, imagine what it would have done for the company, if instead of trying to out-do smart or MINI (the "original" and the new version) Toyota had built a small car for 2 people to travel in style.

Lets see take a car like the IQ which is already completely developed and just sell it as a Scion. Or design another MR2, $$, when the last was a sales failure and made then minor money. I know what I would do if I was Toyota.

I am surprised they even are making the BRZ thing.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
1/29/12 10:57 a.m.

From their web site:

"estimated mpg: 36 city / 37 highway"

Again, amazed that they can make cars so small with so much technology that get such poor mileage. That isn't a load better than my MR2 and not even close to an 80s Honda CRX HF.

mmosbey
mmosbey Reader
1/29/12 11:13 a.m.

I've looked at houses in the New Orleans French Quarter. Condos in the high six-figures sometimes come with one off-street parking spot. Street parking is very hard to find.

In that situation, with two working adults in the household, I would want two city cars, if I could fit them both in the spot. I think the trade-off in the utility of the car would be offset by the ability to hit the button on your remote, and pull directly into the garage.

I'm thinking an IQ or Smart with a roof rack and some sort of short-wheelbase NEV.

integraguy
integraguy SuperDork
1/29/12 1:44 p.m.

wearymicrobe....

yeah, you are right, ALL the car companies should abandon all these stupid niche markets and just build 4 door sedans (maybe even knock down the number of sizes of sedans to 1 or 2 ) and SUVs and that way, with no choices, we all have to buy plain, old boring boxes. But hey, the car companies will be rolling in dough.

The thing I dislike about Toyota, aside from the LFA and the BRZ...they take no chances. Toyota = BORING.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
1/29/12 1:57 p.m.
fast_eddie_72 wrote: From their web site: "estimated mpg: 36 city / 37 highway" Again, amazed that they can make cars so small with so much technology that get such poor mileage. That isn't a load better than my MR2 and not even close to an 80s Honda CRX HF.

you are looking at the wrong miliage.

Look at the city

These cars are not made for longterm highway use (not without you hating life) but 36mpg in stop and go city driving is pretty amazing

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