Are they available yet? Anyone get some seat time?
If the toyotabaru does not materialize, might have to find a plan B
Are they available yet? Anyone get some seat time?
If the toyotabaru does not materialize, might have to find a plan B
The local Scion dealer has one available for test drives, but I think thats it. I'm going to check them out at the auto show in a month or so.
The iQ is only available with a miserable CVT that absolutely sucks the life out of it. O-60 in 9.4 seconds is not my idea of fun.
Be patient. According to this, the FRS will be available in the spring. The Subaru version should also be out about then.
Yeah, my small town Toyota, Scion, Cadillac, GMC dealer has one sitting on the grass out front. Almost stopped to have a look, even pulled into the lot, but decided the five guys sitting out front on a bench looked too hungry to let me look in peace.
Yeah, I have serious tire-kicker guilt issues. I never drive anything I'm not in a position to buy, but somehow, even if I say I'm just curious, and just looking, I still leave feeling like I've somehow wronged the guy who would have just sat on a bench eating sunflower seeds.
I want to think that it will handle like a go-cart. I have a bugeye sprite and even with an anemic 48 gophers under the hood it never fails to entertain while underway.
mad_machine wrote:mmosbey wrote: Oh, wow. Ouch.Is there an engine in there?![]()
apparently this car runs on hoses
I just drove the first one that came in to my dealership. It's pretty roomy inside even for a 6'3" guy like me. It does killer u turns and is pretty fun to drive. Not fast but fun. 36mpg in the city too.
C&D has a mini test in the current issue, I think, and they didn't care for it. You have to really want a small car, that gets mileage numbers bigger cars beat, to buy one.
The British mag CAR says the iQ is an okay car (not bad or good) but they definitely recommend you avoid the CVT. Unfortunately, we don't have the transmission choice that the rest of the world has.
To me, at least with the CVT, they are about on par with the smart and it's funky automated manual transmission. That is, okay if you need a small car and don't really care how it drives...all the while getting lots of stares from passersby.
I realize that Toyota wasn't looking to build that kind of car, but instead of building a 3 or 4 passenger BETTER smart, Toyota SHOULD have built a modern Honda CRX...or re-invented the original MR-2. I mean, imagine what it would have done for the company, if instead of trying to out-do smart or MINI (the "original" and the new version) Toyota had built a small car for 2 people to travel in style.
integraguy wrote: I realize that Toyota wasn't looking to build that kind of car, but instead of building a 3 or 4 passenger BETTER smart, Toyota SHOULD have built a modern Honda CRX...or re-invented the original MR-2. I mean, imagine what it would have done for the company, if instead of trying to out-do smart or MINI (the "original" and the new version) Toyota had built a small car for 2 people to travel in style.
Lets see take a car like the IQ which is already completely developed and just sell it as a Scion. Or design another MR2, $$, when the last was a sales failure and made then minor money. I know what I would do if I was Toyota.
I am surprised they even are making the BRZ thing.
From their web site:
"estimated mpg: 36 city / 37 highway"
Again, amazed that they can make cars so small with so much technology that get such poor mileage. That isn't a load better than my MR2 and not even close to an 80s Honda CRX HF.
I've looked at houses in the New Orleans French Quarter. Condos in the high six-figures sometimes come with one off-street parking spot. Street parking is very hard to find.
In that situation, with two working adults in the household, I would want two city cars, if I could fit them both in the spot. I think the trade-off in the utility of the car would be offset by the ability to hit the button on your remote, and pull directly into the garage.
I'm thinking an IQ or Smart with a roof rack and some sort of short-wheelbase NEV.
wearymicrobe....
yeah, you are right, ALL the car companies should abandon all these stupid niche markets and just build 4 door sedans (maybe even knock down the number of sizes of sedans to 1 or 2 ) and SUVs and that way, with no choices, we all have to buy plain, old boring boxes. But hey, the car companies will be rolling in dough.
The thing I dislike about Toyota, aside from the LFA and the BRZ...they take no chances. Toyota = BORING.
fast_eddie_72 wrote: From their web site: "estimated mpg: 36 city / 37 highway" Again, amazed that they can make cars so small with so much technology that get such poor mileage. That isn't a load better than my MR2 and not even close to an 80s Honda CRX HF.
you are looking at the wrong miliage.
Look at the city
These cars are not made for longterm highway use (not without you hating life) but 36mpg in stop and go city driving is pretty amazing
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