rslifkin wrote: In reply to GCrites80s: In blower-equipped form like they did for the Lightning.
or the DOHC 5.4 from the Lincoln Navigators
Klayfish wrote: '69 Camarostangbirdcuda with a 422ci 12 barrel, 4 speed rock ball buster transmission and don't-call-it-white white paint
my uncle had one of those, hell of a car
wspohn wrote: There weren't that many that wanted that car when it was new -
Not many people wanted the Shelby Cobra when it was sold new in the '60s. You always hear the story of how those cars sat on dealer floors collecting dust.
Driven5 wrote: In reply to Klayfish: Except that this isn't the equivalent of the late 60's high-output big block muscle car, it's more the equivalent of a 50's muscle car...One of the precursors to today's ridiculousness, that will never enjoy anywhere near the same level of desirability or value.
I'd agree completely with your classification of the Marauder, great analogy. It was sort of a precursor to what we see today. However, it was a rare "limited edition" hot rod version of an otherwise pedestrian family sedan. That's a formula that sells at auctions like BJ. I'm not saying it's going to be a million dollar car and we should scoop it up. But I do think that 20-30 years from now, the Marauder will be one of the cars commonly seen at these types of auctions. That's exactly when guys who were kids or very young adults when the Marauder was new will have disposable income burning holes in their pocket and want to relive their youth.
Klayfish wrote: I'd agree completely with your classification of the Marauder, great analogy. It was sort of a precursor to what we see today. However, it was a rare "limited edition" hot rod version of an otherwise pedestrian family sedan. That's a formula that sells at auctions like BJ. I'm not saying it's going to be a million dollar car and we should scoop it up. But I do think that 20-30 years from now, the Marauder will be one of the cars commonly seen at these types of auctions. That's exactly when guys who were kids or very young adults when the Marauder was new will have disposable income burning holes in their pocket and want to relive their youth.
While you're right about the kids who are now grown up with money, what they're going to buy is what they thought of as cool and couldn't afford at the time. I don't think that's going to be Marauders because Crown Vics weren't really family cars at that point, they were mostly sold as fleet vehicles to police departments, taxi drivers, and a few rental fleets. Marauders were intended to appeal to the muscle car baby boomers who already had money but wanted to buy a new car in the style of the ones from their youth.
The cars from the late 90s/early 2000s that are desirable in that way are already going up in value. Think Integra Type Rs and E39 M5s.
In reply to Klayfish:
I'm probably part of the demographic that you'd target. One of my football coaches had one of these when they were new, and I got to ride around in his a few times. I think they're cool. That being said, there are quite a few more lust-worthy vehicles from that time period, and this one probably doesn't make the list. I doubt that there will be enough interest in these in 20 or 30 years to drive up prices enough to justify snatching it up and keeping it on ice. The number of people 20-35 years old with interest in cars isn't close to the number of boomer guys going gaga for classic muscle cars, and with an electric/hybrid/autonomous future at least somewhat likely, I think that reduces the pool even further. Additionally, the wealth gap seems to be widening, so I'd expect fewer people to have available funds for frivalous, high dollar purchases than what you see now.
Of course, the thing is that buying any car with the idea it's going to be worth a bunch of money in the future is a crapshoot. Just like buying 'limited edition' commemorative china plates or Beanie Babies.
codrus wrote:Klayfish wrote: I'd agree completely with your classification of the Marauder, great analogy. It was sort of a precursor to what we see today. However, it was a rare "limited edition" hot rod version of an otherwise pedestrian family sedan. That's a formula that sells at auctions like BJ. I'm not saying it's going to be a million dollar car and we should scoop it up. But I do think that 20-30 years from now, the Marauder will be one of the cars commonly seen at these types of auctions. That's exactly when guys who were kids or very young adults when the Marauder was new will have disposable income burning holes in their pocket and want to relive their youth.While you're right about the kids who are now grown up with money, what they're going to buy is what they thought of as cool and couldn't afford at the time. I don't think that's going to be Marauders because Crown Vics weren't really family cars at that point, they were mostly sold as fleet vehicles to police departments, taxi drivers, and a few rental fleets. Marauders were intended to appeal to the muscle car baby boomers who already had money but wanted to buy a new car in the style of the ones from their youth. The cars from the late 90s/early 2000s that are desirable in that way are already going up in value. Think Integra Type Rs and E39 M5s.
It's all just speculation. Who knows what will really hit big numbers 30 years from now? Markets change, pretty quick. Old car values can skyrocket...and plummet...in a hurry. Look at the 21 window VW bus. It's value has gone through the roof in really short order. Brass era cars have lost a ton of value over what they once were. Integras are hot now, but 10 years from now, who knows? But it's fun to speculate, I guess.
codrus wrote: Marauders were intended to appeal to the muscle car baby boomers who already had money but wanted to buy a new car in the style of the ones from their youth.
LOL, you just nailed the description and motivation of the only person I have known to purchase one of these new.
As a former Imlay City resident, Im just happy to have a claim to fame other than the pickle factory.
A retired podiatrist friend has one with sub 40k miles. And a blower. That runs 12's. And is immaculate and has never seen wet aside of being washed. I'd rather have his than a 0 mile one. He has no kids and keeps telling me it's mine when he kicks the bucket.
If I bought the no mile one I would boil the tires off it as soon as i left their driveway. Then drive it right onto my trailer out of fear of a blowout on 14 year old tires
Klayfish wrote: It's all just speculation. Who knows what will really hit big numbers 30 years from now? Markets change, pretty quick. Old car values can skyrocket...and plummet...in a hurry. Look at the 21 window VW bus. It's value has gone through the roof in really short order. Brass era cars have lost a ton of value over what they once were. Integras are hot now, but 10 years from now, who knows? But it's fun to speculate, I guess.
Tastes in a lot of things seem to get set at certain ages. Music, cars, it's all in that 16-25 or so range. Generalizing a bit, once you get too far beyond that (either before or after) the music all sucks and the cars are ugly. :) Combine that with people acquiring the disposable income for buying toy/dream cars between the ages of, say, 40 and 70, and you wind up with cars peaking in value when they're 25-50 years old.
The brass era cars are dropping in value because they've aged out -- the people who grew up wanting them are mostly dead now. The muscle cars will do the same thing eventually.
I suspect the relative dearth of interesting cars between the mid 70s and late 80s will have two effects, the muscle cars will last longer and the 90s imports will get popular sooner than they would otherwise. We're already seeing a bit of the latter with the ITRs.
Klayfish wrote: He's just selling it 30 years too soon.
They don't look like they have another 30 years...
Agree that it was a 'poor investment' in the sense that they would have made more money doing almost anything mainstream in terms of investments. However, i don't care and i doubt they do either. Honestly, even writing it off completely, losing 40k over 14 years is negligible compared to a lot of people i've met who have literally no sense with money and will probably be impoverished for their entire lives. I can tell that these people aren't that bad with money by the fact that it took them this long just to offer it for sale, and hey, not even to a pawn shop! They may fall below 'brilliant' as investors but they're a cut above probably 70-130 million people in this country if judged off only this one financial decision. So, i don't care to criticize their choice in investments. I see far stupider things pretty much every day.
Also, i think someone will happily pay 40k for it. Someone with more time.
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