TR7
TR7 Reader
8/21/19 9:51 a.m.

Cylinders 1-4, bottom to top. They are out of a well running 944 with ~5,000 miles on the plugs. It looks to me that the end cylinders are rich/cold, and the center two are lean/hot? 

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim MegaDork
8/21/19 10:07 a.m.

The rear one looks a little "burnt oil" contaminated to me. But I agree, the outer two look a little richer than the two center ones.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/21/19 10:13 a.m.

I'd start with something like this: https://www.onallcylinders.com/2012/12/20/reading-101-how-to-read-your-spark-plugs/

 

But my first instinct says, if you think they are worn/damaged/not doing the job, just change them. Especially with plugs because they aren't pricey at all.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
8/21/19 10:16 a.m.

I'd say the center ones look good and the outer ones look a bit rich.

TR7
TR7 Reader
8/21/19 10:22 a.m.
z31maniac said:

I'd start with something like this: https://www.onallcylinders.com/2012/12/20/reading-101-how-to-read-your-spark-plugs/

 

But my first instinct says, if you think they are worn/damaged/not doing the job, just change them. Especially with plugs because they aren't pricey at all.

Ive tried to read those charts, but couldn't come to a solid conclusion on my own. They will get replaced either way, I just want to verify that this might be something I should look into (why are the outer two more fouled compared to the inner two?). 

Stefan
Stefan MegaDork
8/21/19 10:45 a.m.

I think injectors for cylinder 1 and 4 need to be cleaned/tested they may be leaking.

Swapping injectors between 2/3 and 1/4 can help identify if it is wiring/driver issue or an injector issue (the ECU has been known to have issues with bad solder joints or other problems)

Use new plugs to get a proper indication.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/21/19 11:24 a.m.
TR7 said:
z31maniac said:

I'd start with something like this: https://www.onallcylinders.com/2012/12/20/reading-101-how-to-read-your-spark-plugs/

 

But my first instinct says, if you think they are worn/damaged/not doing the job, just change them. Especially with plugs because they aren't pricey at all.

Ive tried to read those charts, but couldn't come to a solid conclusion on my own. They will get replaced either way, I just want to verify that this might be something I should look into (why are the outer two more fouled compared to the inner two?). 

Perform a leak down test and a compression test if you're worried about engine health.

But if the engine is running fine now, I suspect it's not a big deal. Sure the plugs don't all look identical, but it wouldn't worry me.

Paul_VR6
Paul_VR6 Dork
8/21/19 1:22 p.m.

Looks more like oil than richness, and you have crap in your fuel (deposits on center plugs). 

You can't read lean/rich unless it's a gross problem if the engine has run under any condition that you don't want to examine. For wot reading you need to do a pull and shut down and don't let it idle. Then you can read the threads and the ground strap for timing/fueling.

That being said... Plugs that idle near stoich should look almost new with just a light tan color.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden UltraDork
8/21/19 10:58 p.m.

In reply to Paul_VR6 :

When I was running 2 stroke motorcycles that is exactly what I was taught with the additional steps of warming it up and then putting in fresh plugs and run hard .

Braden

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