David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/9/11 7:35 p.m.

I know, I'm bringing back a horse that has already died, but this car--currently the featured Readers' Ride--does look pretty tough.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
3/9/11 7:38 p.m.

I will say it again. The wheels make the car!

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair SuperDork
3/9/11 7:39 p.m.

needs more rear overhang.

Duke
Duke SuperDork
3/9/11 9:19 p.m.

But, see, that's just a cool car, which is why it doesn't have "stance" and not coincidentally why it remains cool. To have "stance" you can't fit a sheet of paper between the wheel rim and the fender arch; even better if you can't see any rubber at all at the top. And you have to be able to hear the wheel bearings begging for mercy.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
3/9/11 9:34 p.m.

I didn't think STANCE was filling the wheel wells with tires, I thought STANCE was putting on so much tire that it overfilled the wheel wells as well as changing the offset so much it brought the wheels out of the body and you had to use 25 degrees of neg camber to keep the tires from being destroyed.

digdug18
digdug18 HalfDork
3/9/11 9:44 p.m.

Yeah, you need some 22" rims on there, maybe some fake spinners. That would look HOT! Some limo tint as well.

sanman
sanman New Reader
3/9/11 10:37 p.m.

I don't think that you need crazy offset and camber to have stance. That is just someone wanting to be silly and different by overdoing the cars. The best stanced cars I have seen are not insane , but there is very little gap between tire and fender. Some of the better cars:

That 320i on the bottom is still the best overall done car in the the stanced style I have ever seen, IMO.

imirk
imirk New Reader
3/9/11 11:28 p.m.

how bout this?

njansenv
njansenv HalfDork
3/10/11 8:02 a.m.

What I think some of you are forgetting is that "stance" existed LONG before today's "Stanced', "Hellaflush" movement. I remember Hot Rod (tm) writing about it in the mid 80's (about as early as I can remember: I was 5-6). It simply referred to the stance of the car. (Duh).
Today's "Stanced" movement takes that to the n'th, exaggerated degree.

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
3/10/11 8:16 a.m.

Stance is a noun, which essentially means position. When referring to a person, it is the the position of the body while standing- threatening stance like a bulldog, etc.

When referring to a car, it is similar.

This car has a stance. It's just not one a lot of people around here care for:

It's like the word "color". The word doesn't define a particular color, only that there is a color.

To "have stance" doesn't have anything to do with the actual space to the wheel wells, etc. Just as "to have color" doesn't have anything to do with what color, only that it is not transparent.

Most folks around here (including me) like a low and mean stance.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
3/10/11 8:19 a.m.
SVreX wrote: This car has a stance. It's just not one a lot of people around here care for:

Gassers! Love em.

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
3/10/11 8:30 a.m.
SVreX wrote: Stance is a noun, which essentially means position. When referring to a person, it is the the position of the body while standing- threatening stance like a bulldog, etc. When referring to a car, it is similar. This car has a stance. It's just not one a lot of people around here care for: It's like the word "color". The word doesn't define a particular color, only that there is a color. To "have stance" doesn't have anything to do with the actual space to the wheel wells, etc. Just as "to have color" doesn't have anything to do with what color, only that it is not transparent. Most folks around here (including me) like a low and mean stance.

What is that, match bash? I love the look.

Joey

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair SuperDork
3/10/11 9:28 a.m.
joey48442 wrote:
SVreX wrote: Stance is a noun, which essentially means position. When referring to a person, it is the the position of the body while standing- threatening stance like a bulldog, etc. When referring to a car, it is similar. snip
What is that, match bash? I love the look. Joey

five minutes for instigating! "Match Bash" is "stance" for gassers. which, i'm guessing, is exactly why you said it.

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
3/10/11 9:29 a.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: five minutes for instigating! "Match Bash" is "stance" for gassers. which, i'm guessing, is exactly why you said it.

I'll take my spot in the time-out seat!

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter SuperDork
3/10/11 9:33 a.m.

Needs moar low.

John Brown
John Brown SuperDork
3/10/11 9:57 a.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: I know, I'm bringing back a horse that has already died, but this car--currently the featured Readers' Ride--does look pretty tough.

Does the peak in the driveway make it look lower and therefore tougher?

While I dig the car I am not all tingly. There is a pic that floated around here of a 240 in almost a Mariner Blue paint job with charcoal 17" MN12 Cobra wheels... That got me tingly.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
3/10/11 10:04 a.m.

I think the difference is intent- a little lowering is purposeful. A straight-axle gasser is purposeful.

Bagged-in-the-weeds "stance" cars are purposeful, but it's for an esthetic instead of performance. Usually not my cup of tea, but sometimes...

petegossett
petegossett SuperDork
3/10/11 10:52 a.m.

I think someone needs to do the wide-whites/gasser treatment on a FWD E36 M3box.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
3/10/11 11:06 a.m.

IMHO, stance is about more than just the tires and wheels. It's how it all works together with the car in a fluid way. I think this car has perfect stance:

And this one doesn't:

Ignorant
Ignorant SuperDork
3/10/11 11:07 a.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: I know, I'm bringing back a horse that has already died, but this car--currently the featured Readers' Ride--does look pretty tough.

thanks.. I just spent 2 hours on ebaymotors looking for a volvo like that.

Keith
Keith SuperDork
3/10/11 4:46 p.m.

To me, the car has the right stance when the wheels are properly located in the fender openings. A car that's too low just looks...too low. That Volvo has something weird going on with the rear wheelarch, so it's not what I'd consider a kick-ass look.

Of all the cars posted in this thread, the one with the best stance to me is the Cobra. Of course, that's just my opinion. Around Grand Junction, we won't have the Stance trend for another 5 years when the cars all show up pre-modified on eBay for cheap.

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