I challenged outback needs new struts on each counter of the car. Not sure which would be the better deal, you guys know where places for deals. It's an 02 subby outback wagon with a 2.5 and stick.
I challenged outback needs new struts on each counter of the car. Not sure which would be the better deal, you guys know where places for deals. It's an 02 subby outback wagon with a 2.5 and stick.
In reply to Dusterbd13:
Whats bad with the sensen? They intrigued me with their price but i chalked them up as crap, but someone here said the stagg "brand" is actually quite good. And I already looked for the stagg brand for the legacy/outback but they dont have them. Just interested on your remarks on the sensen
Staggs are quite good. About as stiff and we'll valves as a bilstien.
Sensen/apx are a different manufacturer of cheap ebay struts. Think Gabriel, but after 50k. Soft on compression, no rebound, and that's on stock legacy gt springs. Also, all the rubber that came with them has already failed.
The stagg have 100k on them and still feel like the day I bolted them in. The sensen have 30, and are a dismal failure on every conceivable way.
Stagg don't make legacy struts....
Good to know!
Makes me feel bad cause i just bolted some Gabriel ultras on moms mustang a year ago. Maybe i should give it a testdrive when i get home. Stagg was my other option for it but i didnt want to "cheap out" on her.
Stagg=yay, sensen=nay. Noted
Id do sti takeoffs, you know some stancetard with an sti has taken out his good stock stuff to put aibags or some crazy e36m3 in his.
In reply to sesto elemento:
Im no subaru nerd but the op doesnt have an imprezza chassis. The outback is based on the legacy chassis.
I would just bang a set of GR2s into the car and call it a day. Sensens don't seem to last long on the Forester, so I wouldn't imagine you'd have much better luck with a Legacy platform.
In reply to sesto elemento:
Some Legacies (up to and including the 2nd gen) can accept GC/GD Impreza parts but I still wouldn't put STI sedan struts on them. You can probably use GG Impreza or GC/GF Impreza wagon struts.
As for STI takeoffs, in the US market you're limited to 04 STI struts since those are the only ones compatible with the 5x100 knuckle that a non-STI would be rocking.
STI sedan inverteds have a longer clevis tab for the widened track width. Putting them on something with the narrower width (GC/GF Imprezas, Foresters, basically anything that's not an Impreza sedan) will put them in bind and lead to destroying the strut.
Sometimes you also get a loss of control when the strut finally gives up, which is what happened with my Impreza wagon running (apparently extremely marginal) 04 STI takeoffs when it hit a speed bump at low speed, taco'd the cartridge, cracked the front steering tophat bearing, and bent the front link on the control arm. I've heard anecdotes of actual injuries from guys who had similar failures on GC-platform cars at high speed.
On top of that, the inverteds really aren't designed for long term use. Most of them you'll find in the used market are blown out and the driver has been tooling around on them for the better part of a decade with dead struts, confusing non-functional suspension for SPORTY FEEL BRO.
They also have a questionable design that blows out the grease surrounding the cartridge with time - I had to drill and tap mine for zerks and periodically regrease them even after building one functional set out of three half-dead sets by swapping cartridges.
Last, on a wagon, you will need to install "saggy butt spacers" so that the rear sedan strut body is the correct length and your wagon doesn't have, well, a saggy butt.
tldr: It's really not a good idea, even if most of the 5x100 STI takeoffs these days weren't also 12 years old at best.
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