Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
5/7/22 8:11 p.m.

Was just watching some vintage racing on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/tH8B1qGbeu0

 

Amazing the throttle control of the lead C3s because of traction issues.  Supposedly there's some Jags in there but apparently they can't catch the Vettes.

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon UltraDork
5/7/22 8:49 p.m.

The sounds... oh to be there in person. Could listen to that Shelby howl all day!

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/8/22 2:14 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

The Jaguar was running around 5th place which for an engine designed during WW2 with less than 250 cubic inches against an engine designed 20 years later.  With 200 more cubic inches.  
  Isn't that remarkable ? 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/8/22 2:19 p.m.
BlueInGreen - Jon said:

The sounds... oh to be there in person. Could listen to that Shelby howl all day!

That whole group is so exciting. Plus that group of cars relate to so many people.  

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) Dork
5/8/22 2:35 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

The Jag was happy that no air-cooled 1930s technology was there that would sound better, be faster, and have less CCs.

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
5/8/22 4:26 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

For someone as old as you are, you sure have problems telling time. The small block Chevy came out in 54 and the big block origins were in 58. No where near 20 years later than WWII.

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/8/22 5:12 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

The big block you are speaking about was  the 348/409 noted for the combustion chamber in the block. None of the Corvettes racing used that engine. The 454 didn't come out until the late 60's. If you read Wikipedia you'll learn a lot.  

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
5/8/22 5:28 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

In the same Wikipedia you'll read that the 348/409 were Mark I big blocks.  At least I'm not trying to say the Atlas engine is based off the Jag 6.  If you want to limit it to Mark IV big blocks then 65 would be mid 60's not late 60's. 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/8/22 10:04 p.m.

They weren't talking about the 396. Nor were you.  They were taking about the 454 which was introduced when?  

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
5/8/22 10:08 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

You're good but maybe you need some instructions.

 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/9/22 6:59 a.m.

In reply to Stampie :

I admit that you are far more capable of the two step on computers than I am.  

 See my original statement was a compliment about an engine designed in WW2 racing against a engine from  20+ years later and 200 cubic inches smaller doing well.  
 It's not taking anything away from your beloved Chevy 454.  
 

 I have seen videos of that same engine defeating 454 Corvettes.  But I'm not able to transfer it and show you.  So you win.  You are better at computer than I am.  Congratulations

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/9/22 7:06 a.m.
Stampie said:

In reply to frenchyd :

In the same Wikipedia you'll read that the 348/409 were Mark I big blocks.  At least I'm not trying to say the Atlas engine is based off the Jag 6.  If you want to limit it to Mark IV big blocks then 65 would be mid 60's not late 60's. 

Look at when Jaguar made their 3.6 which grew to 4.0 and later to 4.2 with VVT.  
 Now look at when the Atlas was developed.  
         What did GM do prior to developing the Atlas. Hint it had something to do with Jaguar.  
     Yes the 348/409. Were bigger than the 327. But size wise weren't they similar to the 350/400 which are considered small blocks?  

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
5/9/22 8:05 a.m.

This thread title needs to be changed to "Dick Measuring Contest".

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
5/9/22 8:46 a.m.

I see a Cobra in 5th, and the first Jag in 7th

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/9/22 10:01 a.m.

I believe you're right. I didn't watch it to the end to see the finish. 
      I just like the variety of cars in Group 6 that so many people can identify with and appreciate.  

APEowner
APEowner SuperDork
5/9/22 10:08 a.m.

Frenchy and Stampie; I wish you two would stop pushing each other's buttons.  As someone else said, it's like watching your children fight.  Please, knock it off!

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
5/9/22 12:15 p.m.

In reply to APEowner :

But Dad he started it.

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon UltraDork
5/9/22 4:36 p.m.
APEowner said:

...it's like watching your children fight...

So, funny for about 60 seconds and then annoying after that?

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
5/9/22 4:52 p.m.

Maybe when can rent a 1/4 mile  dirt oval for a day and put Frenchyd & Stampie in Crown Vics and let him go at it for 10-15 laps.  

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/10/22 9:23 a.m.

In reply to Tom1200 :

I'd really enjoy that.  

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
5/10/22 12:11 p.m.
frenchyd said:

In reply to Tom1200 :

I'd really enjoy that.  

Pretty sure you both would.

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
5/10/22 12:26 p.m.

In reply to Tom1200 :

Can we meet at Elkhart  Lake?  You're welcome to join us. 

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