I must say, I'm very impressed with everything about it except the $90K price tag.
I must say, I'm very impressed with everything about it except the $90K price tag.
jstein77 wrote: $90K price tag.
Hey, that's only double what they originally said it was going to be 
That's for the first, loaded cars. Later ones will come in about ten grand over the original budget.
chaparral wrote: That's for the first, loaded cars. Later ones will come in about ten grand over the original budget.
So the option package is +$35k?
Or is it that one should wait to buy?
I wish them well, but think that reasoning for the price tag is not good. Car 1-100 should be priced the same as car 10,001-10,100. That's part of being good at making stuff. And that much in options for a car like that isn't going to go over all that well- unless you can show me a 3 or C series that also has $30k in options you get from BMW or Mercedes.
It is significant if there really is a 200 mile range electric car that can even be half that in the winter.
In reply to alfadriver:
Read up on the Model S man. The first cars are all equipped with the largest, densest battery, which is the single most expensive piece of that car. The shorter range ones will be the lower price. Even your boss charges a crap-ton more for a larger battery (C-Max Hybrid vrs C-max Energi, Fusion Hybrid vrs Fusion Energi, Focus Electric, etc).
Saw one the other day. In terms of looks, it's pure upscale - running with the top Jaguars, Bimmers, et al. In general, it seems like a win, but it's still a bit odd in that the looks scream "luxury tourer" , but the drivetrain screams "stay close to home".
Javelin wrote: In reply to alfadriver: Read up on the Model S man. The first cars are all equipped with the largest, densest battery, which is the single most expensive piece of that car. The shorter range ones will be the lower price. Even your boss charges a crap-ton more for a larger battery (C-Max Hybrid vrs C-max Energi, Fusion Hybrid vrs Fusion Energi, Focus Electric, etc).
Man, i don't want to read up on it. get over it.
So you have to spend $90k to get the range? that's a lot of money for a 4 door sedan that has similar capabilities as pretty much any other car- for things that matter to buyers of 4 door sedans.
I do understand that batteries cost money. But it's like saying- the base car has a 5 gallon tank, but for $30k, will give you 5 more gallons of capacity. In other words you get what a car of this class SHOULD BARELY get if you spend the money on the upper model, as opposed to the base.
Good luck to them, but based on your response, I suspect that this is, well- no point in posting or reading more about it....
have fun.
If I was shopping for a costly luxo-sedan for some reason this would be near the top of my list.
I'm surprised at how many people don't understand some basics - most of the country lives in or around cities and rarely takes a triple digit trip. Most families have multiple vehicles. It makes pretty good sense to have one of your vehicles be electric if you have multiples. Will it do everything? Of course not. But neither does any other car. Think of how many people use huge pickups as daily drivers, yet scarcely if ever use it as a real pickup. That makes a hell of a lot less sense than my wife or I going electric, when you figure that we both work within 10 miles of home.
In reply to alfadriver:
The company you work for does the exact same thing on battery pricing. 
Watching this I began to get excited and think the same thought a lot of folks on this list think about high dollar cars: "I wonder how long it'll take to depreciate down to my car-buying dollar range." The big question is: Will this thing be anything more than a pile of really expensive parts that need replacing by the time the depreciation curve gets into my ballpark? I guess in that way, it's like an old 7 series, V12 Jag, or Ferrari. By the time you can afford the buy-in, you can't afford the upkeep. Sad I'm with Kerb though. If they could make a sparky car that doesn't look like Urkle's ride and had even a 100-150 mile range (with the AC/heat, lights, and stereo on) I'd be in. We'll take the other car on the road trip.
Car & Driver Csaba Csere review
I haven't been paying attention, but it actually seems rather cool. If the cheaper model comes with a lighter battery pack it might be quite a decent autocross car. I also like the third row seat option.
(I also learned how to pronounce Csaba's name.)
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