I know it's the size of an F-150, but that styling is still atrocious and the vehicle looks so hulking. It's because it's so slab-sided, I think. I'm so mystified by those who find it cool.
I know it's the size of an F-150, but that styling is still atrocious and the vehicle looks so hulking. It's because it's so slab-sided, I think. I'm so mystified by those who find it cool.
Cool is inherently mystifying :)
You can tell they're rookies at making trucks. I've fixed it.
I think it looks amazing. I wasn't sold on the stage show but once I saw photos of it with other cars around it just pops. The slab sides are so cool because we've never seen anything with those vast expanses of metal with no waves, wrinkles, or seams in it. It looks like a render in real life. I bet in person it's just confounding to the eyes. An EPD coated flat black one would be truly menacing and would sell in the millions to suburban dads. And Disaster Area fans.
Aa a suburban dad, I prefer a Raptor to a Tesla Truck
Keith Tanner said:sobe_death said:Well, I put down my $100 for the tri-motor. We'll see if Tesla or Rivian starts delivering trucks first, because I'm absolutely stoked for both. I'm a little more excited for the Rivian as a truck, but my inner 9-year-old-engineer really likes the Cybertruck.
Thumbs up for “tri-motor”. Because there are similarities in construction decisions!
Who will be the first to build a engined turned Cybertruck ,
Some additional news regarding the truck has trickled out. It turns out, the Cybertruck will be designated as a Class 2b-3, Medium Duty truck. This classification means the GVWR is in the 8500-10000lb range.
So it's peers are not the F150 as shown in the infamous tug of war, but actually 3/4 ton trucks a la Ford F250. So, a lot of the shine wears off the stated payload and towing specs as more is revealed.
Only if you rate the truck solely by unladen weight. EVs are heavy relative to ICE, that’s just a given. If it’s priced like an F150 and marketed like an F150, it’ll compete with the F150.
In reply to Keith Tanner :
Yeah, pricing is one of many details that remains to be seen. The market could look different in 2 or 3 years.
Starting MSRP for a crew cab, RWD F250 is currently $37xxx. A fairly base model with minimal options like power windows/locks, and a 6.2 is about $44k. And it's not difficult to find domestic trucks below sticker if you shop around a bit. That truck will do 0-60 in 7.5 - 8 seconds, tows 12,700 or 15000lbs depending on gear ratio and has up to 750 miles of range thanks to a 48 gallon tank.
That seems in the ballpark of the Tesla single motor, RWD which is claimed to "start at $40k", do 0-60 in 6.5, tow 7500+ lbs and have a 250 mile estimated range.
I think the Cybertruck is kind of in between the half and 3/4 tons, a lot like the Titan XD, although it's expected to be a much better truck than the Nissan has been. A bit more capable than a half ton, but not as capable as the 3/4 tons. It will likely avoid a lot of the "work truck" feel of the 3/4 tons with better steering and improved ride/NVH.
I think Class 2 vehicles also have looser standards for crash testing, emissions testing (not a problem for Tesla), and no requirement for fuel economy/range testing compared to lighter half ton trucks. And I believe Class 2 vehicles tend to be taxed more than Class 1 vehicles don't they?
The annual registration will cost more, probably. Otherwise most people won't notice or care. Here in Ohio it would make about a $100/year difference, not much when you're talking about a $40k - $70k truck.
The crash testing difference is interesting. I wonder if the lack of apparent crumple zones in this thing makes that desirable. We know Tesla can make cars that do very well on crash tests (I'm pretty sure that not having an engine block in the nose is a big plus), but 3mm stainless with big strong ridges in it?
In reply to Keith Tanner :
3mm is pretty heavy stuff as far as sheet metal goes... it’s almost 10ga, which is 1/8” thick. Seems like some weight savings could be had there...
Well, if the goal is to get it over the threshold to a Class 2 in order to avoid crash tests, that's one way to do it!
"Cybertruck: your crumple zone is the crumple zone of the car you hit"
nderwater said:"Cybertruck: your crumple zone is the crumple zone of the car you hit"
"Disassociated crash structures."
Unless what you hit is a tree or concrete barrier. The smartcar is too small to have crumple zones, it relies on airbags to prevent driver death.
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