so_slow
so_slow Reader
4/19/23 9:52 p.m.

P3PPY
P3PPY SuperDork
4/20/23 9:18 p.m.

I did a double take when I drove by it. I thought "something is just not right about this Envoy, and I can't put my finger on it!"

I ran it by a couple guys and got the answer. Who can spot what it is?

Oapfu
Oapfu Reader
4/20/23 9:36 p.m.

In reply to P3PPY :

XUV!  Another case of "It is a great idea, but there is no way I would ever buy one."

Random internet pic to explain:

https://gomotors.net/photos/5e/76/photographs_f4659.jpg?i

P3PPY
P3PPY SuperDork
4/20/23 10:05 p.m.

In reply to Oapfu :

Ding ding ding! You win!

Never had I ever heard of it. The guys at Motorweek were sure smitten with it though!

Review video

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UltimaDork
4/21/23 7:16 a.m.

In reply to P3PPY :

There's an XUV in my neighborhood, I see it often enough that they don't feel rare to me.  Definitely a neat idea, but I can't imagine how many parts for it are NLA.

camopaint0707
camopaint0707 New Reader
4/21/23 8:24 a.m.

In reply to Oapfu :

ive never actually seen one in SUV mode

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UltimaDork
4/21/23 9:03 a.m.

If the sliding roof fails irreparably, you could convert one into a mini-Avalanche.

iansane
iansane Dork
4/21/23 9:51 a.m.

This is not a nice neighborhood.

iansane
iansane Dork
4/21/23 10:04 a.m.

Yesterday.

Today.

I like when the weather starts to get nicer.

jerrysarcastic (dork in training)
jerrysarcastic (dork in training) Reader
4/23/23 1:43 a.m.

Loved seeing this early Nova wagon on my recent trip to the bank. It was a random weekday so it struck me as a daily, and not yet relegated to "weekend-only" duty. Much respect. 
 

CAinCA
CAinCA Dork
4/23/23 10:29 a.m.

I saw a lime green metallic Lotus Enora in town yesterday. It looked amazing. I've seen them before but none of the other colors I've seen do the car justice.

Picture for illustration:

clownkiller
clownkiller Dork
4/23/23 11:42 a.m.

In reply to jerrysarcastic (dork in training) :

Out front of Savage Kat Tattoo,  might be a lifestyle daily. We go to roller derby and people drive some interesting cars there too

Purple Frog (Forum Supporter)
Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/23/23 8:29 p.m.

At local car show.  Definitely a GRM car.

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
4/23/23 9:15 p.m.

In reply to Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) :

What engine is that? Def not a 5S or 3S. 

buzzboy
buzzboy SuperDork
4/23/23 9:35 p.m.

Looks like a K, no?

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
4/23/23 9:44 p.m.

In reply to buzzboy :

Yep, the orange dipstick certainly does. 

Powar
Powar UltraDork
4/24/23 12:34 p.m.

R/T TT, a couple of miles from my house. Very cool, and very stock-looking.

golfduke
golfduke Dork
4/24/23 12:37 p.m.

Gotta love the Stealth/3000gt stock wheel gap, haha.  Every time I see it, I wonder what the heck the engineers were thinking.  Such a wonderfully sporty and fun car, only to jack it up like a monster truck.

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
4/24/23 12:42 p.m.

In reply to golfduke :

They are already very low to the ground.  If they made the wheelwells smaller, then the wheelwell to beltline distance would get SUV-like.  Look at a Tiburon to see how bad it is when those proportions get screwed up.

johndej
johndej SuperDork
4/24/23 1:36 p.m.

In reply to golfduke :

Didn't the VR4s have primitive electrically adjusted suspension and active aero?

golfduke
golfduke Dork
4/24/23 2:13 p.m.
johndej said:

In reply to golfduke :

Didn't the VR4s have primitive electrically adjusted suspension and active aero?

Active aero, ECS, and 4 wheel steer were all options for the VR4 and RT/TT, yes!  Granted, they're obsolete tehcnology, but that was some cutting edge stuff back in the 90s. 

And I agree about the wheel-wells for the most part Pete, I just felt like they could have split the difference, with larger wheels and a slightly lower stock suspension.  They are low cars, but its mostly the low roofline that truly makes it feel small.  It's actually got a deceptively long wheelbase, which is why I think the proportions make the wheelwells look so out of place. 

 

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) SuperDork
4/24/23 4:52 p.m.
golfduke said:

Active aero, ECS, and 4 wheel steer were all options for the VR4 and RT/TT, yes!  Granted, they're obsolete tehcnology, but that was some cutting edge stuff back in the 90s. 

Obsolete? They are all still used today.

Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper New Reader
4/24/23 7:39 p.m.

Saw a mid-90s vintage JDM RHD Civic wagon that said AWD on the side this morning on M52 in Chelsea, MI. I didn't even know such a thing existed.

Edit: Apparently it was called an Orthia. Looked very much like this one

https://jdmsportclassics.com/inventory/1997-honda-orthia-4wd/

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
4/24/23 7:52 p.m.
preach (dudeist priest) said:
golfduke said:

Active aero, ECS, and 4 wheel steer were all options for the VR4 and RT/TT, yes!  Granted, they're obsolete tehcnology, but that was some cutting edge stuff back in the 90s. 

Obsolete? They are all still used today.

When active aero is so prevalent that even Dodge pickups have it, it isn't special anymore smiley

I would not call the modern rear suspension jiggerypokery "four wheel steering", because they control the left and right sides independently.  It is more like active toe control.  And no need for a fluid pump on the top of the rear diff and 40 feet of fluid lines running back and forth, since it is done with electric motors in the toe links.

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/25/23 7:30 a.m.

 

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