As far as a "What-if?" question, this is up there, but I figure it will be an interesting game.
Let's say you have a friend who's made his money, and the majority of his children will have moved out soon. He's at that age where he can both afford and enjoy a fast, attractive car, but he has specific requirements.
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It must be a reasonably good daily. He drives about 35,000 miles every year, so the car must be decently comfortable and have enough space for an overnight bag or two.
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It has to retail for under $115k before taxes.
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Speed and driver connection is mandatory. He's become bored of his 300+ horsepower sports sedan with a 0-60 of around 5 seconds to the point where it feels slow.
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You have to be able to drive it year-round in the Canadian winter. Be it snow tires or AWD (I know you should have snow tires regardless, but it's a rather mild Canadian winter he's in).
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It has to be new for tax, warranty, and maintenance reasons.
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An airy feeling is preferable. Open top is best, then panoramic roof, then sunroof, then solid roof.
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It has to feel special and have an air of exclusivity to it. Otherwise, why spend $100k on a daily?
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He isn't afraid to be an early adopter, but expects top notch customer service.
Based on these criteria, I'd probably recommend the new Giulia Quadrifoglio. It's got four doors so it can still be seen as a "family" car, it's very exclusive indeed, both preliminary reviews and comparison tests are very favorable, and there's plenty of room in the budget to option it up and still purchase a set of winters. Although you don't get a sunroof, the beltline and cowl are surprisingly low, leading to an airy feeling.
What says GRM to this hypothetical query?
In reply to Javelin:
About $50k over budget up here .
Tk8398
New Reader
2/6/17 12:06 a.m.
C63 amg? They seem impressive for the price.
Would a helcat scratch the itch?
The only other thing I can think of is a Audi S7 completely maxed out but I don't think it has the performance.
911 Targa 4 or Carrera 4 Cabriolet.
G_Body_Man wrote:
In reply to Javelin:
About $50k over budget up here .
Yeah, but consider the fuel savings.
According to Jaguar's website you can spec a convertible F-type R just under $115,000 limit if you forgo the gratuitous $12k carbon brake package. Awd, special, fast, great noises, etc.
codrus
SuperDork
2/6/17 1:49 a.m.
Audi S6 or S7. Add an APR chip, some downpipes & exhaust for 600 hp.
Range rover. The new Autobiography
That sounds like a 911 to me.
Sounds like the Job for an M3 Sedan and a WRX STI or S4 for the winter. Why put a $115K car through the abuse of a Canadian winter?
It really depends on whether or not he wants a flashy car. There is a big difference between a big fast Audi and a Mustang GT350. Both would work, but would be purchased by VERY different people.
If he's made of money, surely he doesn't need to drive 35k miles/year.
That said, Audi + boost.
Go small: Lotus Exige, non-S, with all the street-friendly options.
ProDarwin wrote:
If he's made of money, surely he doesn't need to drive 35k miles/year.
That said, Audi + boost.
Most people driving 100k cars as their dalies live very normal lives. Work 40+ hours a week. Have a mortgage.
It does sound like a 911 to me. The Alfa would be a lot of fun, different and pretty. I looked at an F-Type R last week, killing time in a showroom, and it's spectacular.
Just as addendum, I was kicking tires at our Fiat/Alfa dealer being sure the last 4C was still there (it is) and the salesman said the boss hadn't decided whether to even order any Giulias. I thought, Gee, that's the one that might actually sell.
R35 GTR? I have a ton of miles in them. In all sorts of traffic. Easily a daily driver and stupid fast.
The 2017 is right at your budget and the interior is much better than the earlier cars. Go for one a year or two old, and throw some mods at it. Under budget and will flat out get it.
Got to say it but 4-5 year old Bentley Continental V8 Convertible. Then buy a warranty.
Javelin wrote:
Tesla P100D or X100D.
I was immediately thinking of a lower-end Tesla S, to stay within the budget. Eyeball-flattening acceleration, plenty of space and decent handling.
I would say F-Typr R, except that it will feel anything but airy with the to up.
The 911 Targa 4 seems to check the most boxes...Assuming that the $115k isn't a hard ceiling after options.
codrus
SuperDork
2/6/17 11:10 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote:
Javelin wrote:
Tesla P100D or X100D.
I was immediately thinking of a lower-end Tesla S, to stay within the budget. Eyeball-flattening acceleration, plenty of space and decent handling.
The Tesla needs careful examining. If the 35K miles a year is a 5-days-a-week 140-mile-round-trip commute, then maybe. If it's weekly 600 mile trips, no way. Even the long daily commute is going to be marginal when it gets cold, due to the loss of battery efficiency and heating the car with electricity. Charging at both ends? We're talking about Canada, right? Do they have SuperCharger stations there?
codrus
SuperDork
2/6/17 11:16 a.m.
Chadeux wrote:
911 Targa 4 or Carrera 4 Cabriolet.
Base MSRP on a C4 Cabriolet is $108,600. By the time you add sport seats and the torque vectoring you're over budget. You might be able to custom order a stripper like that, but most cars you find on dealer lots are going to be well-equipped.
A C2 Carrera starts at $89K, so is probably in budget with typical dealer-ordered options.